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Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:32:30 -0800 (PST)
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Re: [idm] on the ep/album thing...
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Back in the 80's, the average running time for an album was approximately 45 minutes - whatever you could fit onto a slab of 12" vinyl @ 33rpm without sacrificing sound quality.There's an example of an iron maiden live album where they say in the sleeve notes that iron maiden ALWAYS give their fans the best value for money by sticking the maximum length of music they can on a single disc without sacrificing sound quality - about 50-55 minutes as opposed to the normal 40-45. (They were just blowing their own trumpet, but there's some truth in it) The example I can best give here is Philip Glass's Koyaanisqatsi, which was brutally truncated from 75 minutes to 45. 75 minutes would have made a double album, which was deemed too expensive to make it worth manufacturing for a relatively 'niche' artist like Glass. bear in mind, we're talking a major label profit margin here (always much higher than independents) and we're not talking someone who will sell a million out of the box like frankie Goes To Hollywood. It was just down to market forces really - the price of a double album was deemed prohibitively expensive for the market place. The other thing was that with advances for record contracts being made on a per album basis, and contracts for say, 6 albums, why would anyone issue a double album of music which would mean you were effectively giving away a free album to the record company? Anyway, come the middle of the 80's, Cd starts to become dominant and album running times go up.At first its with CD bonus tracks to intice purchasers to buy it on the much more expensive CD format (at the end of the 80's , in HMV a new vinyl album cost about £6.49, and the CD about £11.99.) There was also the issue of i)re-selling us all the old records we alreadyowned but ii)the lower royalty rate on CD's for most artists (A big bone of contention with the Stone Roses contract with Silvertone; to this day, they get a reduced rate of royalties (about half) on CD sales). From about the mid-late 80's, there was no 'virgin' vinyl being produced anymore - ie vinyl which previously hadn't been used. That 'thin' vinyl referred to for public enemy was thus made from overstocks - previously pressed up unsold overstocks, all smashed up together and recycled, with a subsequent loss of quantity and quality caused by impurities (such as labels etc.). this was one of the reasons why a lot of vinyl bootlegs from that era came in coloured vinyls - they were pretty much impossible to recycle and as such, were v'virgin' vinyl. (See Clinton heyden's book -'The great white wonder', also reprinted and expanded under the title 'bootleg' for much more info on this. its a fascinating read in either edition) *shuts up* G __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org