I'm reorganizing my entire collection based on record label, as that
usually says more about a subset of my collection than a genre did (once
you get 600 albums or whatever in the 'IDM' genre it gets useless).
IDM has come to be more of a joke in the vien of 'my dvd player skips.'
'oh that's sooo IDM', etc. but that doesn't mean, as i think you were
getting at, that the label should be rejected. that's what idm music is for.
- xenlab.
Guerdis wrote:
quoted 33 lines It's rather ironic that it's gotten to the point at which "IDM" is now>It's rather ironic that it's gotten to the point at which "IDM" is now regarded as either establishmentarian or generally cheesy - or at least on this list - or at least in the posts I've received since returning to the list the other day. I joined up on this list back in its early days (1994-ish) and it was near blasphemy to sideswipe RDJ et al and one certainly didn't disavow the IDM category lest he or she be snotted-upon for the crime.
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>I come back to hear people talking about AFX being overrated and IDM being an annoying term - Who's taken over this list?
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>Ah yes, the irony part: Formerly, the IDM of AFX was the food of the elite techno divine and it is now the gravel upon which the commoners projectile vomit? And who says so? The elite! (Or rather, those who perceive themselves elite due to the fact that the noise they prefer is on an unknown and insignificant label (to date).)
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>YAWN, people.
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>Warp Records is the standard by which all the rest shall be judged, sayeth the LORD. What else is there, really? Something YOU made? Well, are YOU on Warp? Is this matter of lack the matter of fact that stirs your bile? Oh, what a silly notion. No one would ever stoop to such a low.
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>Anyway, the term Intelligent Dance Music is perfect, as it always has been, for describing what it is we, in general, listen to. Why? Because idiots, no matter what gets said or written, will always assume that techno = the shit they play in clubs. It will be, in other words, DANCE MUSIC regardless of the fact that only someone having a seizure could possibly dance to most of it. The term is, or at least it is to me, a little inside joke. What we know is that this is music to be listened to and appreciated from an intellectual or even academic point of view, yet this can not be grasped by the unwashed mass because it's techno and techno is made up of beats to which people must dance (mainly because techno beats originate from machines and not some tattooed dickhead with a drum kit and the rest of the band, or some stuff-lipped woman with a violin and the rest of the orchestra, or some tobacco-toothed hillbilly and the other country hicks, etc).
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>Terms like Electronica are ones designed by marketeers or other people looking for descriptive ways to organize their inventory. The fact that one might find Technotronic in the same section as Autechre is more than telling that this category is bunk as hell. The term IDM is one that, as far as I can recall, was bestowed upon the form mostly by the combination of the music's listeners.
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>A very specific term is good for a very specific musical form. "Rock" described both Elvis and Tool. How is that possible? "Rock" is generally meaningless, that's how. IDM has a meaning that both undercuts and supercedes the industry it comes out of. One can produce "techno" all day long, but there's nothing that will qualify it as IDM aside from its merits and the general agreement of the listening audience.
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>This, of course, does not solve the whole "Is this IDM or what?" dilemma (the dilemma being more oriented around the fool who doesn't know that the music itself) but it does allow for the establishment of basic criteria for attempting to satisfy that question.
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>Pardon me, what the hell am I talking about?
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>MG
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