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Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:47:48 -0800
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RE: [idm] science in genres...hmmm
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It seems there are multiple ways to trace the lineage of IDM. Most people trace it's roots to funk but a primary element of nearly all funk rhythms is the triplet in a 4/4 groove which can often imply a 3 on 2 - this feature is nearly non-existent in IDM. "4 on the floor" has more of a relation to West African & reggae grooves than R&B. The reliance on repetitive rhythms using sequencers in the electronic world seems to be linked with the batterias of Brazil. This is just touching on some of the rhythmic strains that led to what is modern electronic music. I'm sure someone could follow the influence of technology, ignoring both chordal & rhythmic developments and make a good argument that it's the machine that has revolutionized music, not the player. All are influences, but I don't think we have an understanding of music if we choose to close off possible paths, including those that might use traditional instrumentation (bass, drums, guitar.) The flaw seems to be looking to the past influences in music for a conclusion as to what music is today, rather than opening up the possibilities of what it could become. Every generation believes it is at the apex of musical development. I suppose it's possible that we could be the first generation that is right, but I don't think it likely. -----Original Message----- From: l.garcia@utoronto.ca [mailto:l.garcia@utoronto.ca] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:15 PM To: unlisted-recipients Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] science in genres...hmmm Not to play Captain Poopypants here, but a lot of this lineage-tracing seems to be a exercise in constructing linear narratives from a scattered, contradictory and often unrelated scattering of events. Ultimately, we need some narratives to help organize our understandings of origins and development, but IDM's histories seem to resist that...and I think that's a good thing, overall. If anything unifies EDM, IDM and Electroaccoustic/Tape music's origins, it's the prevelance of hermetic creativities. So many artists in electronic music (especially before the last 1/4 of the XX-century) worked in a state of conceptual isolation, taking their inspiration from a broad array of sources rather than a father-teacher/student-son scenario. So, while I recognize the importance of creating creation stories for IDM and EDM (this is especially true in a classroom setting), we should leave some room for Other stories, Other voices. cheers, Luis --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org