info@noiseloop.com wrote:
quoted 4 lines Well I don't believe there is such a thing as 'IDM' in the first place let>Well I don't believe there is such a thing as 'IDM' in the first place let
>alone 'drillnbass'. I think if you ask any of the guys who actually invented
>the music that these genre names were attached to, they would tell you that
>they made electronica or experimental electronic music.
i don't know if they'd even say "electronica". that word is even
considered silly-sounding to a lot of people, but through repetition
and time it's become grudgingly accepted.
musicians come up with music, and music journalists and listeners
come up with genre titles.
quoted 2 lines I strongly suspect this was>I strongly suspect this was
>down to some ignorant music journo but shit sticks I guess.
it's just a name. people struggle all the time to give a name to the
unnameable, sometimes they get it wrong. almost every music genre
name is a misnomer. so what. it may be annoying, but it doesn't
change what the music is.
quoted 5 lines there was never a drill'n'bass>there was never a drill'n'bass
>scene for example, this stuff has always been played together and mixed up
>and this is why we have interesting music. These micro-genre names must
>describe a perceived common denominator to be in use - but that doesn't say
>anything about a piece of music or its worth.
i don't think it does either. "drill'n'bass" was probably
offhandedly tossed out in a review describing some harder aphex
tracks, and people picked up on that and started to repeat the term.
i could be wrong, but i don't think it's seen as another genre per
se, or even much of a subgenre. i think it's just something that
some electronic artists do when they start working on fast
jungle/d'n'b-style tracks and they push it so far end up achieving
that drill-like industrial sound.
for it to be a true genre or subgenre, IMO you would have to have
many releases entirely devoted to music exactly like that. which, to
me at least, would be very tiresome, as i've seen with some of the
ant-zen "distorted electro". some of the artists seem almost
interchangeable, as well as unable to break free of the "sound" and
add more variety to what they're doing, because to vary too much
would mean a track that's no longer in this narrowly-defined
"micro-genre" (nice term by the way, mr. noiseloop!). and i say this
even though i really like some ant-zen artists.
so many people are ready to jump on a genre bandwagon as soon as a
term gains any notoriety. meanwhile, as pointed out by serveral
people here, the artists don't give a toss about this. i think those
that do are one-dimensional and will box themselves in creatively
pretty quickly. if you're trying to be in an existing genre, you're
thinking about music ass-backwards. not to mention the work's
already been done for you.
d.
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