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From:
Rjyan Kidwell
To:
Juho Hietala
Cc:
IDM List
Date:
Tue, 11 Jun 2019 13:35:55 -0400
Subject:
Re: IDM's tombstone
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gotta agree with Juho. way way less "LOL WHAT EVEN IS THIS" when you play an obscure idm track in public nowadays On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 1:33 PM Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 96 lines In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general> In my experience IDM is alive and well and people appreciate it in general > more than they used to. I get way more response these days from IDM sets > that I would in the past. Feels like the world is catching up to the early > 00s sometimes. > > > > On 11 Jun 2019, at 15:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree that IDM didn't happen in a vacuum. > However, i also agree about *«glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp > techniques and all kinds of» *tools that wouldn't exist before, confering > their unheard imprint on this music, even shaping it completely. > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:38 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I often wonder then how this isn't considered idm >> I even hear bits of house music on BGM >> >> YMO- 'Music Plans' >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5WJ3BiJ5jg >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:03 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> the thing is that, in my opinion, the ideas of IDM, much like drum and >>> bass, exploded out into a hundred other genres, and you now hear people >>> uses glitches and retrigs, weird jittery max/msp techniques and all kinds >>> of trippy gear hacks, as commonplace musical elements in 'mainstream' music >>> even >>> there's entire swaths of music that at one time wouldn't have had a >>> label to go under and would have just been shelved as 'idm' in the 90s and >>> now have their whole own sections / genres >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:28 PM Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "1992-1995, but still haunts us today despite 'braindance' being just a >>>> smidgen less conceited" >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 11:11 AM Laurent Knauth < >>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I find this thread quite amusing as i'm quite obsessed with the >>>>> previous decade myself : 1983-1993. >>>>> The Depeche « Alan Wilder » Mode era. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:40 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 1993 - whenever hapbt dies >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:23 PM Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "It's pronounced aw-tek-uhr" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 11:24 PM, Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > What dates would you put on IDM’s tombstone? >>>>>>> > Maybe: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > 1993 - 2003 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > What do you think? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Also a what message would you put on there besides RIP? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > “These guys thought they were pretty clever.” >>>>>>> > or maybe >>>>>>> > “It was never a proper genre name anyway." >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Adrien Capozzi >>>>>>> > https://adrien75.bandcamp.com/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >