quoted 30 lines From: "robert stanton" <industrialrobot@hotmail.com>
>From: "robert stanton" <industrialrobot@hotmail.com>
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] Prefuse 73 Tune in Footlocker Ad
>Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:51:13 -0500
>
>>What's wrong with trying to better one's own lot in life to the >detriment
>>of everyone else?
>I surely hope you are just being sarcastic here. If you're not, here's a
>brief explanation: the ideas of neo-liberalism, which you have voiced here,
>maintain that policies which maximize the role of markets and profit-making
>and minimize the role of nonmarket institutions (e.g. regulation) are best.
> However, these modern markets and the vast number of
>corporations/conglomerates that are involved in them only cater to the
>elites, namely the rich and powerful owners of such companies. So, first
>off, since most of the media outlets today are owned by a half-dozen
>powerful corporations, you're not going to hear much news or journalism
>that's either controversial to *their* concerns or other companies (see the
>book I previously mentioned for more information on this). Additionally,
>neo-liberalism's "markets know best" approach, if taken to the extreme,
>would mean no agencies such as the EPA, FDA, etc. And, as long as the
>elite's backyard looks nice, green, and unpolluted, and that his
>food/medicine doesn't kill him, history has demonstrated that he isn't
>going to care about the rest of world. This ideology of uncaring has been
>in part responsible for the poor conditions of the world to the present.
>
>The simple idea of "I'm ok, so I don't care if you are" is about the most
>ignorant and selfish statement one human being can make to another. The
>fact that this ideology is so commonly voiced by many societies and people
>across the globe is a frightening testament to how much the ideas of
>laissez-faire life, goverment, and economics have gone.
what is this? did i step into a time warp? holy shit. last time i
checked, liberalism hasn't a flying fig to do with what you're talking
about-but capitalism vs. socialism does. if you're so vexed by capitalism
then go live in china and ride a bike, eat hay and not own any of the music
you make. fucking shame on you if you ever drank a coke.
and caring? wake up man, do YOU care? what do YOU do to assuage the
bereavment of the world? next time i take a big capitalist style shit and
it hurts, you better be there to prep-H my suffering butthole. or you
shouldn't mind everyone's beezwax, eh?
quoted 13 lines I suppose people also shouldn't try selling their music, as they're
>
>>I suppose people also shouldn't try selling their music, as they're
>> >simply supporting bad music formats and the technology industry that
>> >creates speakers and cd players.
>There's a *big* difference between recording music for various formats and
>directly allowing your music to support an institution via payment directly
>from that institution. Phillips and whoever else owns the rights to the CD
>patents is *not* paying you to use their musical formats to record music,
>whereas Footlocker *is* paying Scott Herren to use his music. I argued
>that this paying of Herren was negative in that it either demonstrates his
>naivete of what he is supporting, or that he just doesn't care that his
>music is being commercialized (and commercialized does not mean "made
>popular") and supporting corrupt institutions.
who the hell do you think you are to say that scott is naive? have you
heard his fucking records? what bizzarro-backwards ass universe do you live
in? or, why would he not want people to hear his music? what is that
fucking bollocks?
who's life is scott ending by letting some goon edit his track to shit and
bury it behind some fucking rent-a-homie hyping up sports and sonsense?
were you hurt by that? get a grip, man, he's trying to get a fucking leg
up, and giving you music to ponder the fuck out of and try to figure out how
he did it.
i almost never post to this list, but this is a bunch of horseshit. i gotta
put my foot down. Josh D. spells it out crystal fucking clear, and still
people miss it. come on, none of you know scott, none of you know his
reasons for doing that, and none of you know the real situation with his
contract with warp. they may have gone over his head with that foot locker
shit, it might not even have anything to do with him, so quit all your
bitching, please, everyone, live and let live, alright? let the man make a
fucking record. the lives he has enriched with his music will far outweigh
any downside bullshit that anyone on this list can think of or fabricate
that he was involved in. sorry for my f-bombs. in conclusion, if you
didn't spend so much time flapping your lips, and spent more time on your
tracks and your musical skills, then you would be getting paid too. STOP
PLAYER HATING ON TIGHT PRODUCERS, PLEASE. and buy the new Savath+Savalas
ep, it's the shit.
_J_
long live capitalism!
that's right, bitches. i mean it.
that's all from me until at least january.
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