As Sham said, «*people think of themselves as good and moral*». This is how
i might see myself for eating veggy, but definitely not as being «urban» —
i eat organic but have a unecological way of life, having a cellphone (even
though it's a cheap one that i almost never use) and a computer assembled
by poor people for the antipodes ; on top of that, i'm French and as such,
taking advantage of «Françafrique», even though i'm not responsible for it
and find it more than regrettable.
Now, sorry if my contribution seemed a little provocative, but then piracy
concerns appear subjective and insoluble to me — until some legal package
ultimately gets the afterword, like it happened with sampling.
Yet, even though it finally has a legal framework, the legitimacy of
sampling remains hard to define to me so far. In one case, i'm tempted to
think that sampling a whole bar is going too far, but then of course it
depends on who does it and how. On the other end, some people think that
even sampling a snaredrum «only» is already stealing, because recording
this snaredrum required a whole life of abnegation.
Like many people here, i'm hoping to make some music that deserves some
«commercial» release one day.
And like many people here, i'm listening to illegal music a lot, which i
generally don't like so i have no problem about it.
Sure, there are Youtube, Spotify and other «legal»-likes which i also use
an awful lot, but many «serious» people see them as the fatal blow dragging
down the music industry.
Until Universal Music trully deserves its name — i.e. they'd stream about
each and every existing music catalog on earth —, maybe only lossless audio
should be forbidden ?
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Esa Juhani Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 43 lines This is like a can of worms type discussion that just doesn't stop.
> This is like a can of worms type discussion that just doesn't stop.
>
> What, we've moved from Torrent piracy to sampling, is it illegal, should
> it be allowed, what if it shouldn't be. when is sampling a sample piracy,
> when is it theft,
> ....
> and
> ....
> when is it arson?
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> On 22 Oct 2014, at 16:55, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Correct me if i'm wrong, but Luke Vibert took over other people's music
> before he ever got a chance to get pirated.
> Now of course, that's a different story – or not ?
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:59 AM, Esa J. Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Sham, I remember Luke Vibert saying to The effect that that is exactly
>> what People mention to him at The drop of a hat.
>> Luke Vibert.
>>
>> Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.
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>> > On 22 Oct 2014, at 02:45, Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com> wrote:.
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>> > If you met your favorite muso in a bar would you mention you downloaded
>> their entire discography?
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