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From:
Christopher Sorg
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Wed, 10 Apr 2002 00:05:21 -0500
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RE: [idm] appropriation in art [was Digital Cutup Lounge onCNN.c om]
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quoted 13 lines At 08:15 PM 4/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:> At 08:15 PM 4/9/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Above all else, the Dada Movement was a nihilistic one - denying meaning. > >That is the antithesis of making a statement. > > "Don't worry Donny, they're only nihilists." > > Of course, isn't a statement saying that there is no statement or > meaning a > statement? > > Wheee!!!!! > > derek
I doubt that any Dadaists would have copped even to that. Those crazy Dadaists would never have called themselves anything twice (so, okay, they were nihilists...once :), more likely they would (and they often did) do something completely nonsensical or accidental (like rolling dice to create something, ala Kurt Schwitters, or calling the crack in the Large Glass the final touch, heheh) and then do something completely overwrought with symbolism, such as, well, the Large Glass. Even calling it Dada is kind of weird. It's like calling a group of artists that have nothing (and everything) in common "blaudyblooblee". It's completely meaningless until it starts to become framed in an historical context. And you'd have to be a die-hard Hegelian to say that there was a cause (WWI) and effect (Dada), and they don't exist anymore, do they? Duchamp was practicing whatever "Dadaist" really means right up until his death (the permanent installation in the Philadelphia Art Museum installation several months *after* his death, in fact). At any rate, the work is so lovingly open to multiple interpretations...that's why art historians love it so much. They'll end up with more writing about the Dadaists than there is actual Dada work. And that's really Dada! And if there are any so-called IDM artists out there creating Dada-like IDM, my vote would be for the Tigerbeat crew. Well, okay, perhaps they're more Fluxus, I don't know. Take your pick. __________________________________________ Christopher Sorg Multimedia Artist and Instructor The School of the Art Institute of Chicago http://csorg.cjb.net csorg@artic.edu --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.314 / Virus Database: 175 - Release Date: 1/11/02 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org