This, 100%.
On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 202 lines i wouldn't hold aphex or someone to any kind of political standard, but> i wouldn't hold aphex or someone to any kind of political standard, but
> martin and richard made it clear many times that the black dog is a
> political animal now, with the titles of their albums and tracks, their
> blog and twitter posts, etc
> if you have a homophobic third member, you need to be open about that
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Ed Tyler <hekula@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> :-( Double mega fail! Thanks for the update, disappointing stuff there.
>>
>> On 18:13, Thu, 24 May 2018 Chris Bellevie, <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just listened through all of Black Daisy Wheel stream on Bandcamp and
>>> really like it quite a bit. It's really hard to separate the music from
>>> comments like that :(
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well as long as I stirred the shit I might as well follow through with
>>>> the shit show.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From one user:
>>>> im getting oddness too, think someone may have deleted something?? but
>>>> just to stop conspiricy stories, i happen to still have it in another tab.
>>>>
>>>> it was me, it was real,
>>>>
>>>> I cant tell you if its still there, because he blocked me,
>>>> but go back to the 17 or 18/12/2017 and see if its still there.
>>>> his exact comment was along the line of "Gay men are cancer for kids"
>>>> i think, if i recall, it was all based on a case of an adopted child
>>>> being killed by the adopted parent ?
>>>>
>>>> which descended into a new world order, trump love-in with a huge "all
>>>> gay men are paedophiles and murder kids" twist.
>>>>
>>>> As a gay guy, i was quite open in arguing with him, he lost it, posted
>>>> a load of stuff on my personal page (we were FB friends), then deleted it
>>>> all and blocked me.
>>>>
>>>> i shoudl add, i wasnt intending to shit stir either, its water under
>>>> the bridge, it was a comment on a FB friends post, which happened to be in
>>>> this group, about the new BlackDog album, which i made the comment on, in
>>>> passing.
>>>>
>>>> its not like ive got some axe to grind as such
>>>>
>>>> But, re:above, yes i can seperate artist from art,but when said artist
>>>> has attacked you personally online, and it becomes personal, that does tend
>>>> to colour your view. its not an abstract concept.
>>>>
>>>> I -am - a huge fan of the early black dog stuff, I bought it all ,
>>>> BYTES was my go to album for a good while, i loved that stuff, I still do,
>>>> nothings changed there
>>>> ---
>>>> he deleted the lot.
>>>> it certainly isn't me that's posting it to the IDM list, but at the
>>>> same time, i'm not going to deny it happend, because it did
>>>>
>>>> i dont have grabs etc because he deleted the personal stuff he posted
>>>> on my page (i woke up to a wodge of notifications of page posts) and
>>>> blocked me.
>>>>
>>>> I do have the message i sent, to someone who knows him, who i dont want
>>>> to involve in this, asking if they wanted to check on Ken, make sure he was
>>>> ok, was this out of character etc,
>>>> but i'm not about to share that and drag someone into year and a bit
>>>> old drama!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> anyways unless someone hears more about this ,please assume it's
>>>>> totally bullshit and false and my apologies for bringing it up in the first
>>>>> place
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 2:27 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently it was on his Facebook profile, if anyone has him on their
>>>>>> friends list then maybe it's still there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 May 2018 18:08, "Chris Bellevie" <c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would freak me out too, just would never, ever expect that,
>>>>>>> although I guess that it's not anything I have ever actually seen him
>>>>>>> comment on at all in anyway. But BD is something personally really invested
>>>>>>> in (I actually still had and just handed down to my son the BD live
>>>>>>> cassette Ken sent me years ago that I dubbed for free for anyone on the
>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once again I'm kicking myself for not screenshotting it, someone
>>>>>>>> had posted a message about getting the two new black dog albums today in
>>>>>>>> World's Greatest Electronic Music Albums group iirc
>>>>>>>> and on it a guy was saying "oh gee, i don't know, ken downie
>>>>>>>> recently went off on a huge rant on facebook about homosexual men being
>>>>>>>> pedophiles and a bunch of his pals jumped on the band wagon"
>>>>>>>> now of course that FB post is deleted, there's nothing on the Black
>>>>>>>> Dog group, and i'm not a facebook friend with Ken Downie
>>>>>>>> i just sort of freaked out when i saw that because maybe i'm a
>>>>>>>> little too personally invested in the black dog and it would really break
>>>>>>>> my heart so, i just wanted to hear right away that it's all bullshit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Chris Bellevie <
>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where did you hear this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And to unintentionally sidetrack this, I'm curious, have the band
>>>>>>>>> ever commented on the level of input each has member has? Do they all work
>>>>>>>>> jointly, or is it more in the vein of BD of days gone by where individual's
>>>>>>>>> tracks were included?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if someone is trying to spread untrue rumors about ken to tank
>>>>>>>>>> their album sales or something that's just messed up
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Clint Anderson <
>>>>>>>>>> clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i dunno i can't believe it
>>>>>>>>>>> would be totally counter to everything he's said in the past
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Chris Bellevie <
>>>>>>>>>>> c.bellevie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Say it ain't so!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Ed Tyler <
>>>>>>>>>>>> hekula@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but if true this will literally break my heart :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17:31, Tue, 22 May 2018 Clint Anderson, <clinta@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i apparently missed this but there's a rumour going about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that mr ken downie of the black dog fame recently went on a homophobic rant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equating homosexuals to pedophiles, anyone have any more information on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if true i feel like this needs to get discussed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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