Marcus, but that isn't what we're talking about really, is it?
What do you think about the artist name "Beatwife," Marcus?
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From: Marcus Kreitzer <markreitzer@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:50 PM
To: nat hawks; brit walker
Cc: Basma O; Clint Anderson; 22tape; J L; Mauro; idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
Why does nat hawkes alternate between apologizing and continuing to say the things he was apologizing for?
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Marcus Kreitzer
On Mar 25, 2018, 9:29 PM -0400, brit walker <bwalker.sd@gmail.com>, wrote:
thanks for this. couldn’t agree more.
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On Mar 25, 2018, at 9:34 AM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com<mailto:natbot@hotmail.com>> wrote:
(SORRY ABOUT MULTI-POSTING, but got a weird bounce-back email and wanted to make sure this got through.)
There is sea change happening in updating the ways we perceive certain groups.
historically, I have always found this to be an intelligent (sorry) and open-minded group, but to be honest, I'm a disappointed with many people's response.
No one is saying someone with a sad, ignorant name like this should be 'banned.' Though if I was a festival or venue or label I wouldn't touch a person with this detestable name.
What I think should be obvious is that the name 'beatwife' is normalizing violence against women. Violence against women is a horrid, world-wide crisis that has been going on since the dawn of time and it is now in our power
to limit it, but we need to see how out-in-the-open it is.
'hang black' 'kill fags' ... ha ha... no. stupid, ignorant, unacceptable. yes, someone dope can use this name, sure. but they need to know that it's offensive, and if you aren't offended you are part of the problem.
maybe it's because i have a daughter... maybe it's because i'm a highschool teacher of young women who have been the victims of violence against them and seen what it does to their lives.
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE.
'BEATWIFE' is an UNACCEPTABLE name.
this person needs to know this, his label needs to know this.
SHAME on orb magazine for supporting this artist. hell, SHAME ON BANDCAMP FOR NOT DELETING HIS ACCOUNT. I'm going to contact both avenues now regarding this
The time to look the other way with this sort of shit is over.
It's not OK.
and to state what should also be obvious, electronic music has struggled against being a boy's club also for way too long... shit like this does not help.
imagine being a female electronic music artist and reading the discussion happening here. imagine how unsupported you would feel. if i was a female i would tell all who can't accept the obvious evils here to @#$#$^#@.
I just emailed this to his label...
"it recently came to my attention that you have an artist named BEATWIFE on your roster. This is a disgusting, unacceptable name.
PLEASE ASK HIM TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE HIS NAME.
Violence against women is horrible and this 'play on words name' is not funny.
If you don't force him to change his name or drop him YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
please stop helping to normalize violence against women.
THANK YOU! Peace."