Don't give provocateurs oxygen by acknowledging their existence, or else
they win, and even become president. Treat provocateurs like you would a
child who is throwing a tantrum-- ignore them. They hate that... and
eventually shut up.
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 101 lines in all the years i've been on this list, i've never ever seen anything as
> in all the years i've been on this list, i've never ever seen anything as
> pathetic as this particular email thread.
> Emailing him to change his name? you're fucking kidding right? holy shit.
> close yourself down immediately, nat hawks
>
> On 25 March 2018 at 17:40, Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> dude. don’t be a self righteous dick.
>>
>>
>> On 25 Mar 2018, at 18:34, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> (SORRY ABOUT MULTI-POSTING, but got a weird bounce-back email and wanted
>> to make sure this got through.)
>>
>> There is sea change happening in updating the ways we perceive certain
>> groups.
>>
>>
>> historically, I have always found this to be an intelligent (sorry) and
>> open-minded group, but to be honest, I'm a disappointed with many people's
>> response.
>>
>>
>> No one is saying someone with a sad, ignorant name like this should be
>> 'banned.' Though if I was a festival or venue or label I wouldn't touch a
>> person with this detestable name.
>>
>>
>> What I think should be obvious is that the name 'beatwife' is normalizing
>> violence against women. Violence against women is a horrid, world-wide
>> crisis that has been going on since the dawn of time and it is now in our
>> power
>> to limit it, but we need to see how out-in-the-open it is.
>>
>>
>> 'hang black' 'kill fags' ... ha ha... no. stupid, ignorant,
>> unacceptable. yes, someone dope can use this name, sure. but they need to
>> know that it's offensive, and if you aren't offended you are part of the
>> problem.
>>
>>
>> maybe it's because i have a daughter... maybe it's because i'm a
>> highschool teacher of young women who have been the victims of violence
>> against them and seen what it does to their lives.
>>
>>
>> VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE.
>>
>>
>> 'BEATWIFE' is an UNACCEPTABLE name.
>>
>> this person needs to know this, his label needs to know this.
>>
>>
>> SHAME on orb magazine for supporting this artist. hell, SHAME ON
>> BANDCAMP FOR NOT DELETING HIS ACCOUNT. I'm going to contact both avenues
>> now regarding this
>>
>>
>> The time to look the other way with this sort of shit is over.
>>
>> It's not OK.
>>
>>
>> and to state what should also be obvious, electronic music has struggled
>> against being a boy's club also for way too long... shit like this does
>> not help.
>>
>>
>> imagine being a female electronic music artist and reading the discussion
>> happening here. imagine how unsupported you would feel. if i was a
>> female i would tell all who can't accept the obvious evils here to @#$#$^#@.
>>
>> I just emailed this to his label...
>>
>>
>> "it recently came to my attention that you have an artist named BEATWIFE
>> on your roster. This is a disgusting, unacceptable name.
>>
>> PLEASE ASK HIM TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE HIS NAME.
>>
>> Violence against women is horrible and this 'play on words name' is not
>> funny.
>>
>> If you don't force him to change his name or drop him YOU ARE PART OF THE
>> PROBLEM.
>>
>> please stop helping to normalize violence against women.
>>
>> THANK YOU! Peace."
>>
>>
>>
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