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To:
Clint Anderson
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22tape , J L , Mauro , idm@hyperreal.org
Date:
Sun, 25 Mar 2018 08:31:39 +0200
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Re: beatwife podcast
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oh cool... hehe, maybe "wife" is an archaic concept anyway.. so he beat it! yeah... now we all saying his name... will check him out lateryyy!! or maybee/maybeatnot... On 25 March 2018 at 01:04, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 251 lines ding ding ding> ding ding ding > huge thread about this guy just cuz he used the name 'beatwife' > clearly it makes you stop and look twice > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:48 PM, 22tape <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If someone finds the name offensive, don't support the artist. Pretty >> simple. Personally, I find the name more gimmicky than offensive. But why >> do artists choose gimmicky or offensive names? Because it drives people on >> forums and obscure internet lists to listen to their music. If only I'd >> thought to put a marshmallow on my head during my gigs... >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:22 PM, J L <importspeedster@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mauro, my point was that he's not making fun of a certain group—yet >>> you keep mentioning it because you're misinterpreting his words. You're >>> being hypersensitive. >>> >>> >>> I have no idea what you're talking about here. What does this mean? "or >>> you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that >>> "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person?" >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Mauro <lavaramano@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:02 PM >>> *Cc:* idm@hyperreal.org >>> *Subject:* Re: beatwife podcast >>> >>> hi there! (another lurker here) >>> >>> i see your point, but at the same time: "Much of life is about >>> struggle, and overcoming obstacles." such as stop making fun (_not >>> saying the artist is doing it_) of violence towards a certain group of >>> people, right? or you mean being a 14 y/o rebel who thinks that >>> "sticking it to the man" implies being an awful person? either way, >>> this discussion belongs to another mailing list i guess. >>> >>> and yeah, the music is really good. (back to the topic of this list heh) >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 3:24 PM, J L <importspeedster@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi everyone, long time lurker. >>> > >>> > >>> > I think it seems obvious that his pseudonym has nothing to do with >>> beating anyone up. >>> > >>> > >>> > It's a slippery slope for the arts. If artists keep catering to >>> fragile safe spaces, and politically mandated speech and correctness, they >>> will eventually be shut down for expressing opinions or even emotions that >>> may differ from establishment ones. Perhaps music & percussion that's too >>> aggressive sounding, fast, or doesn't conform to establishment ideology >>> will be censored, & or shut down? >>> > >>> > As an example, RDJ has expressed differing opinions from establishment >>> ones in various interviews. Also there was John Major's criminal justice >>> bill which attempted to outlaw repetitive beats. >>> > >>> > >>> > "This artist name, or music makes me feel uncomfortable so lets ban >>> it." Enough with the outrage. Life isn't always about being comfortable. >>> Much of life is about struggle, and overcoming obstacles. >>> > >>> > >>> > Never heard of the guy, but this is a cool album btw. Definitely gonna >>> pick this up. Thanks for the info Clint! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/ >>> <https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/> >>> Beatwife <https://beatwife.bandcamp.com/> >>> beatwife.bandcamp.com >>> Beatwife Earl Rögnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy Flöw >>> 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat Böwler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Plankerön 6. Acid Acid 7. >>> Export Grabber 8. >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Beatwife >>> > beatwife.bandcamp.com >>> > Beatwife Earl Rögnvald (Wife Trax), released 12 July 2017 1. Badboy >>> Flöw 2. Face Daddy 3. Fat Böwler 4. Child Of Pappa 5. Plankerön 6. Acid >>> Acid 7. Export Grabber 8. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: Eric Fairbanks <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> >>> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 12:11 PM >>> > To: Mauro >>> > Cc: IDM >>> > Subject: Re: beatwife podcast >>> > >>> > Aha hey there Mauro! And yeah, I don't mean to be dismissive. It's not >>> something I would choose to do. >>> > >>> > There's another artist out there who goes by something like "stage 4 >>> cancer" or something that seems a bit insensitive as well, though not in >>> quite the same way. >>> > >>> > I get that art doesn't need all it's edges sanded off, but I'd think >>> if you're going to have a name like that, it at least deserves some kind of >>> obvious explanation. Unless (perhaps even if) it's meant to make a >>> statement because you're donating album proceeds to >>> domestic-violence-related groups or something it at best comes off as >>> tasteless and at worst as making light of something awful. >>> > >>> > I think some artists, especially those who make more inaccessible, >>> noisy, horror-driven music might see it as bringing attention to ugly >>> things with the sort of inherent disclaimer that they're not advocating >>> them, but I doubt that comes through to the casual listener or someone >>> intimately familiar with the matter. Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but it's >>> not really an excuse anyway as it doesn't change how it impacts others. >>> > >>> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 11:45 AM Mauro <lavaramano@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > "Ah yeah, those are beaten up women but it's ok, it always have been >>> > this way. you know, boys will be boys, nothing serious." :) >>> > >>> > PS: hey eric! >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:15 PM, Eric Fairbanks >>> > <eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Names like that are pretty common in the breakcore circuit. They >>> tend toward deliberately offensive/horrifying/inflammatory. Y'all ever >>> see any of VSnare's album artwork or track names? >>> > > >>> > > Guess it depends on your feelings on being upsetting in (presumably) >>> a tongue-in-cheek way. >>> > > >>> > > I can see it being a turnoff, but I also assume that Aaron Funk >>> isn't actually advocating befriending child killers. >>> > > >>> > > Music is art blah blah censorship yadda yadda. >>> > > >>> > > I haven't listened to much beatwife so idk. >>> > > >>> > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018, 9:39 AM Laurent Knauth < >>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> Guys, marketing has its reasons that the reason ignores. >>> > >> >>> > >> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:18 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> These explanations all make sense, but they don't excuse the name, >>> at all. It's a disgusting name. If we all agree, we should collectively >>> tell him? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 5:26 AM, Laurent Knauth < >>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> As for me, i assumed it was some tribute to the « Beat that bitch >>> with a bat » track, or some other reference everybody here would get except >>> me ! >>> > >>> >>> > >>> If not , his Max4Live patches names suggest that he has audio >>> under his skin, i mean his « wife » gets literally sequenced, broken, >>> convolved, twiddled, rushed, effected, doctored and... eventually « tranz ». >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 5:27 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> i guess i assumed that it was ironic in the sense that maybe he >>> is the wife and he makes beats >>> > >>>> i dunno >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> Clint Anderson >>> > >>>> Systems Engineer >>> > >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:24 PM, Baptiste Bacot < >>> baptiste.bacot@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> I suggest « RapeK!dz » for the next moniker, it’s way more >>> appropriate. >>> > >>>>> Unfortunately, the mix and the production seem good, but I dont >>> want to spend much time listening to this guy’s music, because of that name. >>> > >>>>> The list seems terribly silent on that matter. What do you guys >>> and girls think about this « artist name »? I just want to hear from you : >>> do you find the alias legitimate, and if not, why? >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Best, >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> BB >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Le 23 mars 2018 à 15:16, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> a écrit >>> : >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> "beat wife"?! >>> > >>>>> Really? >>> > >>>>> Dude needs to change his name now. >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> ________________________________ >>> > >>>>> From: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> > >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 9:06 AM >>> > >>>>> To: IDM >>> > >>>>> Subject: beatwife podcast >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> http://www.orbmag.com/music/orb-podcast-002-beatwife/ >>> > >>>>> Orb Podcast 002: Beatwife - Orb Mag >>> > >>>>> www.orbmag.com >>> > >>>>> Since his debut EP, Ritilin, in 2008, Scottish born, Los >>> Angeles-based producer, Richard Wilson, has been creating music under his >>> alias Beatwife. His approach towards acid, IDM, and experimental music, >>> combined with his knowledge of audio technology, including his signature >>> software and modified equipment, has resulted in the creation of Beatwife’s >>> distinctive sound. Beatwife released his … >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> Clint Anderson >>> > >>>>> Systems Engineer >>> > >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> 22tape/jared dunne >> listen <http://22tape.com> >> > >