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From:
Adam Piontek
To:
Inconvenient Dark Matter
Date:
Sun, 8 Jul 2001 10:13:05 -0400
Subject:
RE: [idm] just remember who's the daddy
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all right, i'll bite - don't read this if you're just gonna follow your hormones and get all upset; I'm trying to use some 'sense' too (as nintari said this post had some)...
quoted 7 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: St ranger [mailto:pleaseinputusername@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:43 AM > > Having heard quite a bit of feedback from the new > squarepusher album I've been shocked by the amount of > negativity towards it.
I've been shocked by all the positivity I've heard. I mean, I've read a few negative things here and there, but most of what *I've* seen has been "squarepusher as god" type stuff. (that's kinda why i've been outspoken about my lack of interest in the new one, not that it matters)
quoted 4 lines I mean fair do's, everyone has there own opinion but> I mean fair do's, everyone has there own opinion but > terms such as "Tiresome" and certain magazine > reviewers using comments such as "ho-hum" is, I > beleive a step too far.
why? Do you mean "too far" like "inappropriate" or "too far" like "I think they're wrong"? Because you just said everyone has there [sic] own opinion, but then you say their opinions are "a step too far" and that seems kind of oxymoronic, if you ask me. How can an opinion go to far, unless it's about something more scientific and can obviously be refuted, like "my opinion is that the earth rotates around the moon"?
quoted 6 lines I have respect for Photek, he's released some great> I have respect for Photek, he's released some great > tracks, but you can't compare a Metalheadz artist to > someone like Squarepusher, that just comparing them > because they both use elements of D&B, Squarepusher, > as you would have obviously heard does so much more > than that.
have to agree here - I've always thought there was something different in SP's music that set him obviously apart from your average d'n'b-er. Comparing him to photek would seem odd to me. Maybe the reviewer just usually reviews pop stuff? I don't know, didn't read that article...
quoted 3 lines Electronic music needs artists such as Squarepusher,> Electronic music needs artists such as Squarepusher, > AFX, Mike Paradinas, and Ae, through to lesser known > artists such as Vim!, Pendle, and Jamie Liddell.
Hmm, well, electronic music just needs people to make what they want to make and be who they are. It doesn't "need" any particular "type" of musician, unless you've got an axe to grind.
quoted 2 lines These people are examples of true pioneers, obviously> These people are examples of true pioneers, obviously > the list goes on.
Everyone's a pioneer to somebody.
quoted 2 lines 1. Forgot how much Squarepusher is a don?> 1. Forgot how much Squarepusher is a don? > - Port Rhombus/Tundra/Big Loada/Vic Acid/Chaos AD
Yes, his earlier stuff *does* kick major ass. I still love that shit. Was wondering, after listening to Go Plastic, if maybe it was me - like "should I sell some of my other Squarepusher? Because I obviously am just not into him anymore." But you know what? I couldn't stop listening to Chaos A.D. - that album, though previously my least favorite SP album, is definitely in a leage of its own and I just can't part with it. I did decide to get rid of Selection 16, though. I mean, I'll be burning the three or four good tracks on it to a compilation I'm making, cuz they're worth it, but they're not worth the whole album. I think it should have been an EP, and half as long. The last half can just go bye-bye. As for Go Plastic itself, I'm not going to rant on about how I don't like it, because the more I listen to it, the more I get into it. But the thing is, it simply is not like the stuff he's done before. It's harder to get into, and his previous stuff was so immediately likeable. No, music doesn't have to be immediately likeable, but I'm just trying to make the point about its fundamental difference from previous squarepusher work, which is hard to describe, but it's the reason people don't like it. It's not what they were expecting (especially after the My Red Hot Car single, which is a horrible example of what the album is like), and it's not what most people will want to listen to again and again, whether you think that makes them dumber or not.
quoted 2 lines 2. Getting bored with this type of music?> 2. Getting bored with this type of music? > - You shouldn't be listening to it
What an elitist thing to say. For all your peaceful writing, you had to end with this? This sort of statement just shows that you have a simple view of music. Just because you like A, B, C, and D, it does not follow that everyone else who likes A, B, and C, must like D. -Adam _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org