thanks for the kind comments Paul.
~swamay~
www.mp3.com/swamay
www.swamay.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Chillage" <paulchillage@hotmail.com>
To: <swamay@home.com>; <josh@undertone.com>
Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] last 6 months rule
quoted 8 lines ok swamay,
> ok swamay,
> I gave you the benefit of the doubt and logged on to mp3.com
> and had a listen to "what's your frequency" and "freq the technique" and I
> liked both of the tracks.Obviously I couldn't hear everything in them
> because I'm using a 56kbps modem (fastest domestic connection available in
> Ireland btw !!!!!!!) but I have to say that I then put on "Ageispolis" and
> "Xtal" by the Aphex Twin and well you know who won.
> Your stuff is nice in an R'n'b meets electro vein (esp. wyf )but it kind
of
quoted 2 lines limped along clutching its balls.
> limped along clutching its balls.
> It may be "cutting edge" but its still miles behind the above 2 tracks
(and
quoted 17 lines you know how that album was mastered).
> you know how that album was mastered).
> Sorry.
> Maybe I'm the guy to make you try harder.
> Please do.
> But don't forget to get rid of your Kyma in 6 months.
> All the best,
> Paul Chillage.
>
>
>
> >From: "swamay" <swamay@home.com>
> >To: "Josh Bown" <josh@undertone.com>
> >CC: "Paul Chillage" <paulchillage@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [idm] last 6 months rule
> >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:34:41 -0700
> >
> >Simpler the better eh? not for me. i like options. dont like to
conform
quoted 28 lines to what i have been given. there is always more out there.
> >to what i have been given. there is always more out there.
> >
> >
> ><<who needs more than a
> > > few waveforms,
> >
> >ME
> >
> ><<a couple envelopes and a couple of LFOs????
> >
> >ME
> >
> ><< WHY?????
> >
> >so i can make more interesting music.
> >
> > >>? who wants to lug a computer to a gig????
> >
> >ME
> >
> > > Have you ever considered that maybe the problem isn't that you don't
> > > have enough new gadgets, but that you just lack talent????
> >
> >Yes i sold all my gadgets to get a computer system, I oooze talent.. and
> >KNOW that. :)
> >
> >
> ><<> New sound and gadget obsession is not a sign of musical innovation,
it
quoted 3 lines is a sign of boredom and boringness and means you are probably just a
> > > is a sign of boredom and boringness and means you are probably just a
> > > sound designer who wishes he was a musician. SOund designers get paid
> > > big bucks in hollywood to do special effects in sci-fi movies... Why
not
quoted 1 line go get a job in hollywood and you will be more successful than 99.99%
> > > go get a job in hollywood and you will be more successful than 99.99%
of
quoted 11 lines all musicians out there....
> > > all musicians out there....
> >
> >
> >hahaha... I DO! :) that is why i bought KYMA in the first place :)
> >
> >
> ><<> ok so before you have even heard my album, the fact that I am using a
> > > Nord, my guitar, a sampler and some effects already eliminates it from
> > > consideration? man.... WOW you are just too much!>>
> >
> >No, I dont like guitars. Where can i hear your album...I will listen to
it
quoted 3 lines gladly. :)
> >gladly. :)
> >
> ><<> or because the fall in love with a particular instrument and it
always
quoted 1 line goes beyond their wildest dreams in satisfying their needs and they
> > > goes beyond their wildest dreams in satisfying their needs and they
have
quoted 4 lines no reason to look elsewhere?>>
> > > no reason to look elsewhere?>>
> >
> >more power to ya. :) But i would be surprised if ANY peice of gear
> >satisfied anyones need to where they dont have to look elsewhere. not
even
quoted 8 lines DSP systems (which are more advanced than anything else in the market) go
> >DSP systems (which are more advanced than anything else in the market) go
> >beyond my wildest dreams. If a sampler and a few synths will go beyond
> >your wildest dreams, then you are one LUCKY electronic musician. and you
> >will save TONS of money over your carreer.
> >
> >
> ><<Well, I went through that
> > > phase and then I realized that nothing is really ever new anyway, we
all
quoted 1 line recycle our influences, and originality is great, but only when
> > > recycle our influences, and originality is great, but only when
combined
quoted 21 lines with quality, which implies the ability to communicate emotions and
> > > with quality, which implies the ability to communicate emotions and
> > > ideas through music, some of which are timeless and old and others are
> > > new... you have to be able to combine all of the forces together to
> > > achieve greatness...>>
> >
> >Jesus! do you even know what a KYMA does???? or beyond that, have you
> >used
> >one??
> >So you know what it can do to your influences, your recylcled influences.
> >Im happy with this "phase" im going thru. This "phase" allows me to do
> >things with my equipment you C
> >AN NOT do with any other peice of gear.
> >
> >I feel that anyone can make electronic music. my mother has given it a
> >shot
> >and she listens to jazz. But to be an innovator you must stay on top of
> >technology and break barriers that no one else is. That is my hope with
> >DSP
> >systems. And am sure this is why Atom Heart/Autechre/Low Rez and others
> >buy
> >these systems, to get unique sounds, and to give them flexibility they
did
quoted 48 lines not have with conventional gear.
> >not have with conventional gear.
> >
> >Take it easy.
> >
> >~swamay~
> >
> >www.mp3.com/swamay
> >www.swamay.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Josh Bown" <josh@undertone.com>
> >To: "swamay" <swamay@home.com>
> >Cc: "Paul Chillage" <paulchillage@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: [idm] last 6 months rule
> >
> >
> > > comments inline below:
> > >
> > > swamay wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > If you're not using technology developed within the last 6
> >months,
> > > > > >you're
> > > > > > > a reflection of the past. Please, if you have a serious
> >dedication
> > > > > >towards
> > > > > > > forwarding electronic music technology, don't use any
> >synthesizers
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > samplers.
> > > >
> > > > We both meant "hardware" synths and samplers. We use DSP or a
hybrid
quoted 3 lines of
> >of
> > > > hard/software.
> > > > using an ASR-10 or a KORG keyboard is a bit overreated. they dont
do
quoted 7 lines much
> >much
> > > > anymore.
> > > > We make "samplers" or "synths" on the computer now a days.
> > >
> > > who wants to lug a computer to a gig????
> > >
> > > also, I like knobs!!!! the simpler the better... who needs more than
a
quoted 8 lines few waveforms, a couple envelopes and a couple of LFOs???? WHY?????
> > > few waveforms, a couple envelopes and a couple of LFOs???? WHY?????
> > > Have you ever considered that maybe the problem isn't that you don't
> > > have enough new gadgets, but that you just lack talent????
> > >
> > > New sound and gadget obsession is not a sign of musical innovation, it
> > > is a sign of boredom and boringness and means you are probably just a
> > > sound designer who wishes he was a musician. SOund designers get paid
> > > big bucks in hollywood to do special effects in sci-fi movies... Why
not
quoted 1 line go get a job in hollywood and you will be more successful than 99.99%
> > > go get a job in hollywood and you will be more successful than 99.99%
of
quoted 9 lines all musicians out there....
> > > all musicians out there....
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >So once the album is over 6 months old its not relevant any more
> >because
> > > > the
> > > > > technology is "old"!!!
> > > >
> > > > No an album made in the past 6 months does not get dissed. But
using
quoted 9 lines the
> >the
> > > > "standard" off the shelf gear to make that album does.
> > > > Thats what i mean by be an innovator.
> > >
> > > ok so before you have even heard my album, the fact that I am using a
> > > Nord, my guitar, a sampler and some effects already eliminates it from
> > > consideration? man.... WOW you are just too much!
> > >
> > > > But course there are those musicians that will always use the same
old
quoted 2 lines gear,
> >gear,
> > > > because that is what they are comfortable with, and have no desire
to
quoted 2 lines move
> >move
> > > > forward with new gear. And also dont want to go throught the
learning
quoted 4 lines curve.
> > > > curve.
> > >
> > > or because the fall in love with a particular instrument and it always
> > > goes beyond their wildest dreams in satisfying their needs and they
have
quoted 12 lines no reason to look elsewhere?
> > > no reason to look elsewhere?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think most musicians have made a rep with the gear they have, and
> >fear
> > > > rejection if their style changes in the slightest, due to new
> >unfamiliar
> > > > gear they are using.
> > >
> > > I think you must be smoking crack. Most musicians with any integrity
> > > care not one iota about their "rep" and will use whatever tools are
> > > necessary to accomplish the task at hand.... If you need a piano
sound,
quoted 2 lines use a piano. If you need a rhodes keyboard sound, use one of those, if
> > > use a piano. If you need a rhodes keyboard sound, use one of those, if
> > > you need a psychedelic synth sound, what's wrong with a Nord or even
an
quoted 3 lines old MOOG or something?
> > > old MOOG or something?
> > >
> > > no hard feelings man, I just think you have a very unique taste or
that
quoted 1 line your style and taste is maybe going through a phase that I think we
> > > your style and taste is maybe going through a phase that I think we
have
quoted 2 lines all been through where you focus on originality at all costs. In other
> > > all been through where you focus on originality at all costs. In other
> > > words, originality is all that matters, so just because no one else
has
quoted 2 lines done it before or it's new makes it great... Well, I went through that
> > > done it before or it's new makes it great... Well, I went through that
> > > phase and then I realized that nothing is really ever new anyway, we
all
quoted 1 line recycle our influences, and originality is great, but only when
> > > recycle our influences, and originality is great, but only when
combined
quoted 11 lines with quality, which implies the ability to communicate emotions and
> > > with quality, which implies the ability to communicate emotions and
> > > ideas through music, some of which are timeless and old and others are
> > > new... you have to be able to combine all of the forces together to
> > > achieve greatness...
> > >
> > > in my humble opinion.....
> >
>
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