alright, i have to put on horsey noises now.
On 9/3/2015 9:08 AM, Clint Anderson wrote:
quoted 197 lines heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write> heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write
> terrible lyrics' -- i can think of an example, venetian snares!
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com
> <mailto:chaircrusher@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There's good self-indulgence and bad self-indulgence, at least in
> music. Good self-indulgence is finding something you want to
> explore and going all the way in without worrying about how it's
> going to be received or how well it fits standard formats. An
> example is the way Riccardo Villalobos makes 20 minute tracks.
> They're not all great, but the good ones are unlike anything else.
>
> Bad self-indulgence would be to sing an album of tracks when you
> aren't a good singer and you write terrible lyrics. I can't think
> of an IDM example, and even then that's subjective.
>
> It's good self-indulgence when you don't think about whether anyone
> else will like it, and it turns out good. It's bad self-indulgence
> if you follow your muse, and the result sucks.
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:27 AM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com
> <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> yeah i dunno i was thinking about that -- how is being
> self-indulgent a bad thing?
> also, by saying that, are you implying that the artists you DO
> like are NOT self indulgent?
> (name some i bet they all are)
>
> anyways tom being a ass that everyone hates just makes me like
> him more
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Seruyange
> <g3scom@gmail.com <mailto:g3scom@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I've always liked Squarepusher though stuff like 'Music Is
> Rotted..' did had some low points ("self indulgent" though I
> guess he's an artist with the right to make what he wants
> and I can opt not to buy... or just listen to individual
> tracks).
>
> Never liked Moby, never understood why he was as popular as
> he was... even for the stuff that was more classified as pop.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Clint Anderson
> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> go back
> tom
> do it again
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:39 PM, A. Arentia Goofinoff
> <meatsock@gmail.com <mailto:meatsock@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> as in squarepusher was named after a mythical sex
> toy then? one should not try to fit a square peg in
> a round hole!
>
> On Sep 1, 2015 9:23 PM, "Clint Anderson"
> <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> the steely dan of techno
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, kent williams
> <chaircrusher@gmail.com
> <mailto:chaircrusher@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I also like that the kind of stuff by
> Squarepusher I like (like "Music Is Rotted
> One Note") is cited as something someone
> else on the list hates. "Squarpusher. Never
> could get into his stuff, especially the
> self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic
> stuff." Thanks Mark!
>
> We do also need to start a soundcloud free
> account in the name "SQUARPUSHER" and start
> posting wierd shit.
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM Clint
> Anderson <clinta@gmail.com
> <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> this is funny because in theory doesnt
> squarepusher .. 'push' a lot of albums?
> i mean i get the impression that
> second to afx he is one of warp's bigger
> electronic acts but yet every other
> person i talk to HATES his music, not
> just dislikes but people say stuff just
> like what you guys are sort of saying,
> like that his style is actually
> offensively 'self indulgent' to people heh
> i guess i kind of see this but at the
> same time it really doesnt affect me
> listening to the music or maybe i even
> enjoy that aspect of it...i loved big
> loada, hard normal daddy, damogen
> furies, i thought ufabulum was eh, but
> then he came out with the kcrw sessions
> which basically 'fixed' the issues i had
> with ufabulum...
> i dunno my one best friend says
> vehemently "there is NOTHING original or
> interesting about ANYTHING he's done"
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark
> Schieldrop <mark@schieldrop.us
> <mailto:mark@schieldrop.us>> wrote:
>
> Squarpusher. Never could get into
> his stuff, especially the
> self-indulgent and extremely boring
> acoustic stuff. ____
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> And obligatory: Moby. Though, he’s
> arguably not IDM.____
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> *From:*Laurent Knauth
> [mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com
> <mailto:laurent.knauth@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2015
> 3:39 AM
> *To:* Faraz Masroor
> *Cc:* Idm List
> *Subject:* Re: IDM you don't like____
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> Problem with this topic is that the
> list is endless...____
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> Hell is the limit !____
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> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM,
> Faraz Masroor
> <faraz_masroor@yahoo.com
> <mailto:faraz_masroor@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:____
>
> We have a lot of discussion here
> about history of IDM, podcasts, new
> releases were interested in, etc.
> Basically stuff we like, but how
> about a thread for stuff you don't
> like?____
>
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>
> I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin
> very interesting because his new
> songs are unfocused and too similar
> to each other, kinda boring. I
> haven't listened to SAW yet but I
> imagine I'll like it better. ____
>
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>
> Faraz____
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Sham Beam