i am in a posting mood tonight (hell if i know why) so i am going to jump
in here (you may as well delete now:!)
the socal scene is way too fucking full of drama - at all angles! for
some reason we live in an area with some of THE most talented people
possible: lexaunculpt, kid606 (am i allowed to put those 2 names next to
eachother these days?:), brad laner, most of the plug research cast and
crew (low res, phthalocyanine, mannequin lung, etc), brian lustmord,
l'usine, bassland and so many many many other people (like EVERY band from
the area that has played up at KUCI) --
yet you put *some* of these people together in a small room and they fight
like mad! its like the idm version of spartacus or something. (note, i
am not claiming that all these peeps are like this, just that some of them
clash with one-another personality wise).
it just gets rather frustrating to see artists that i admire quite a bit
and have been following since what might be day 1 for a lot of them (i
have not left my bedroom for years, okay??) fight and bicker and shit like
that.
the worst part is that there is, all things considered, not much in terms
of a scene here -- yet rather than dropping their bs, people fight like
mad.
i hope other regions of the world are not QUITE this bad!
on live collaborations/jams:
live jams between skilled artists are wonderful! i think some of my fave
moments in viewing shows come from watching electronic artists just drop
their guard and jam away. this is one of the reasons i enjoy seeing acts
like bassland so much. sometimes they reach points of absolute
amazement --
and other times, when "journeying" (for lack of a better word), they end
up hitting some low points. its the nature of live improv. personally i
am willing to put up with the shakey moments to hear the moments of pure
chemistry.
when brad (electric co./milkalive) and alex/lexaunculpt played live
togther, i very much enjoyed it for what it was. it most certainly was
not perfect, but it was simply a fun live moment (from an audience
perspective). i feel very strongly, however, that they each make better
music on their own, as they have drastically differing approaches to
music (as brad, alex, gonzi, brock, etc have all stated in less the kind
ways :).
when alex/lexaunculpt and michael/kid606 played together -- well, i think
it worked a bit better. there really did seem to be some sort of
chemistry there (imo, again, from my little audience chair). i saw them
do a live improv at beyond baraoke (sp?) in LA and it was quite good in
that noisey/chaotic sort of way. in fact, as far as i know, that was the
first night that the hip-hop/NWA covers surfaced, that later gave way to
the new "attitude" 3" cd (or so i am guessing, which is the reason i was
bummed not to see the lexaunculpt song on there but understand why 2
people at odds would not want to put something out together -- again,
speculation on my part from the muppet balcony seats).
on top of that, kidlex (featuring..guess who?) produced one of the best 23
seconds of music ever!
anyway, i guess my point is -- as a fan of the music it would be nice if
the personal issues could be set aside so the ideas and music can continue
to come out as slick as always!
now that i feel like a complete scenester, thanks for the time.
chris.
On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan wrote:
quoted 45 lines Our shows together were> > Our shows together were
> > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live
> > improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced
> and
> > mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add
> > something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show..
>
> Hmmm or was it that he heard your 'idea' of live improvisation and did the
> best he could to humor you while maintaining some level of dignity :)
>
> > I learnt quite a bit
> > from alex, and the same can probably be said for him.
>
> this...
>
> > sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for
> him (
> > leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of
> it
> > beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the
> > multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and
> your
> > pal isn't.
>
> and this don't exactly gel do they? learned quite a bit from the talentless
> did you? Why not be honest Brad and admit your true motivations for posting
> any of this, which are entirely personal. If Alex (and I) learned anything
> from you and your buddy 606 it's how not to treat your friends, especially
> after how generous Alex was in sharing his knowledge and talent with both of
> you. If Kid has arranged some press agents good for him, now maybe he can
> get off the phone for once and arrange to make some decent music that
> doesn't use all the same shit alex showed him 2 years ago. Propaganda only
> gets you so far, some of us have actually listened to the records.
>
> I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so
> I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging is
> leveled at a friend.
>
> gnz.
>
>
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