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Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:29:09 EDT
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Re: (idm) []pusher & recommendations
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In a message dated 7/7/99 11:01:53 AM EDT, samuel.frank@yale.edu writes:
quoted 4 lines While I can't think of many off the top of my head, there are plenty of> While I can't think of many off the top of my head, there are plenty of > experimental works that mix free jazz and electronics. Stuff with Ikue > Mori and the Tzadik label, maybe Orchestra 33.3 (haven't heard it for a > while so I might be wrong)
the Orchester 33 1/3 disc is great! but it's not really free jazz. more of a salmagundi jazz - a little improv, a little hard bop, a little surf guitar, a little Peter Brotzmann, a little vocal weirdness, a little of whatever you want to call Ralph Carney, etc - all roughly charted in advance on Christian Fennesz and Christoff Kurzmann's PowerBooks then handed off to a massive ensemble for open interpretation. amazing. i've never heard anything else like it. free jazz and electronics? what about the Evan Parker/Lawrence Casserley disc on Touch (Solar Wind), the two Evan Parker Electroacoustic Ensemble titles on ECM, and the Evan Parker Live at Les Instants Chavires on Leo? and his "interpretation" on Disinformation's AL JABR is totally unreal. not to get too Parker-crazy. but, hey - the guy's amazing. some of the Simon Fell titles on Bruce's Fingers fit the free-jazz/electronics bill. though Fell seems to have more in common with Anthony Braxton. and, since he's calling many of his compositions, er, Compositions... maybe you could drag in the whole "is it?/isn't it?" argument that jazzbos level against Braxton. still, incredible stuff. so where does free jazz end and improv begin? if we're going to walk into that puddle, you might as well check out all the Günter Müller + (fill in the blank) titles on For 4 Ears. start with Müller/Marclay and either Müller/O'Rourke. you won't be dissapointed. mr. e. now on: jimmy giuffre 3: thesis (ecm)