I think [OPINION].
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 151 lines What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace.
> What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Back in the Protracker days, i once recorded the Amiga channels onto
>> cassette and resampled the track this way.
>>
>> Quite blurry, RAM-hog (4 bars) and slightly unsync'ed.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their
>>> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks
>>> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could
>>> free up 3 channels
>>> </mod-nerd>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clint Anderson
>>> Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks <
>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
>>>> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect.
>>>>
>>>> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
>>>>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3
>>>>>
>>>>> This was from this album
>>>>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd
>>>>>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much
>>>>>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where
>>>>>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns
>>>>>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and
>>>>>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot
>>>>>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the
>>>>>> other options of the time, which were trackers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
>>>>>>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well
>>>>>>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <
>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro,
>>>>>>>> and I cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>>>>>>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>>>>>>>> next measure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the
>>>>>>>> time I was done.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in
>>>>>>>>> an audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>>>>>>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>>>>>>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>>>>>>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>>>>>>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>>>>>>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>>>>>>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>>>>>>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <
>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet,
>>>>>>>>>> but I enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide
>>>>>>>>>> effects rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which
>>>>>>>>>> comes from playing bass through it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>>>>>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds
>>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>>>>>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>>>>>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>>>>>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if
>>>>>>>>>> people use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing
>>>>>>>>>> with it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <
>>>>>>>>>> craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all
>>>>>>>>>>> been sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a tragedy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>>>>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>>>
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