Haha, nice! That was actually the feature that sold me on Renoise. It's
"render selection to instrument" shortcut really appealed to me, since I
could mangle a breakbeat, sample that, mess with that sample, resample
that, rinse, repeat.
7-8 years ago I made a track like that, sampling and resampling the amen
break:
http://ericfairbanks.org/osHIpFG1F88s.mp3
I kinda miss resampling the amen into oblivion. Would feel a bit
masturbatory since I haven't been releasing anything these days [years]
though. I'd kinda like to hear the result of something like Glitch feeding
back on itself until entropy fully sets in; maybe that's something to do.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:18 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 149 lines also one thing i do with beats sometimes in cubase is take a beat, and
> also one thing i do with beats sometimes in cubase is take a beat, and
> then do the cubase process->plugin on it, bring up dblue glitch and see
> where in the glitch 'sequencer' my loop lands, then set it to just crush or
> just reverse or just slowdown, etc, and apply that just to that one measure
> or a couple of beats in the loop.
>
>
> Clint Anderson
> Systems Engineer
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their
>> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks
>> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could
>> free up 3 channels
>> </mod-nerd>
>>
>>
>> Clint Anderson
>> Systems Engineer
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks <
>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
>>> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect.
>>>
>>> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
>>>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3
>>>>
>>>> This was from this album
>>>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd
>>>>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much
>>>>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where
>>>>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns
>>>>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and
>>>>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot
>>>>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the
>>>>> other options of the time, which were trackers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of
>>>>>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well
>>>>>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro,
>>>>>>> and I cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>>>>>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>>>>>>> next measure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the
>>>>>>> time I was done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in
>>>>>>>> an audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>>>>>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>>>>>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>>>>>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>>>>>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>>>>>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>>>>>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>>>>>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <
>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet,
>>>>>>>>> but I enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide
>>>>>>>>> effects rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which
>>>>>>>>> comes from playing bass through it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>>>>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds
>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>>>>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>>>>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>>>>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if
>>>>>>>>> people use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing
>>>>>>>>> with it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <
>>>>>>>>> craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been
>>>>>>>>>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a
>>>>>>>>>> tragedy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>>>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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