(Thanks to others too ^^)
2015-02-28 13:47 GMT-05:00 Anthony Papavassiliou <
anthony.papavassiliou@gmail.com>:
quoted 89 lines Thank you so much Brian :)
> Thank you so much Brian :)
>
> 2015-02-27 0:46 GMT-05:00 Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com>:
>
> > I typically feel it was just someone taking the piss out of genre
>> > titles...
>>
>> +1. ..and wasn't it also a slightly derogatory way to describe that music
>> as well?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/2015 2:44 PM, c j wrote:
>>
>>> So I guess that is to say...I know of the when the term was first
>>> applied, and to whom...but I don't actually know the answer to your
>>> question :|
>>>
>>> I typically feel it was just someone taking the piss out of genre
>>> titles...
>>>
>>> ...but given that a lot of drill n' bass artists had backgrounds in
>>> jungle, and jungle became drum n' bass, I can see these weird techno
>>> proto-junglists evolving their own music into it's own drum n' bass
>>> derivative, "drill n' bass". I can only neckbeardedly speculate and
>>> propose that drills are oft associated not just for their annoying
>>> sound, but their propensity and function to "wind up", much in the way
>>> intense beat repeating and programming does in drill n' bass. Well, my
>>> mind makes that fundamental connection...but would I have called it
>>> drill n' bass at the time? Had I been one of the purveyors? I don't
>>> think so, so I can't say where the "drill" part really comes from.
>>>
>>> "23 laughing foxes serenading lobsters" - cody
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> From: coda27@hotmail.com
>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>> Subject: RE: IDM List archives
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:29:46 -0700
>>>
>>> common knowledge (?), but Plug's Drum and Bass for Papa EP is typically
>>> considered the first "drill n' bass" album. As to whether or not the
>>> term originated around this time/coincided specifically with this
>>> release, or was applied at a later date to that album and subsequent
>>> artists, I do not know.
>>>
>>> "23 laughing foxes serenading lobsters" - cody
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:55:28 -0500
>>> Subject: IDM List archives
>>> From: anthony.papavassiliou@gmail.com
>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to access to old IDM List archives on
>>> http://web.archive.org/, but only some of the topics will open.
>>>
>>> Do you know where we can browse the entire archives ? If its not done
>>> yet, I really think that having a dump somewhere would be great for
>>> science :)
>>> As an example, I'm trying to find when the first(s) occurence(s) of
>>> drill and drill'n'bass appeared.
>>>
>>> I can reach a 1997 topic by Styrolene VaT
>>> http://web.archive.org/web/20071118222100/http://elists.
>>> resynthesize.com/idm/1997/01/442429/
>>>
>>> But i can not read most of the post that could contain some uses of the
>>> word or expression before or after this date.
>>>
>>> I also found topics with the names "anti-drills" and "drills", later in
>>> 1997, but could not read what is inside :(
>>>
>>> Also, if you have any other information/source from inside or outside
>>> the IDM List about the word "drill" from the drill'n'bass, feel free to
>>> message me :)
>>>
>>> A. Papavassiliou
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sham Beam
>>
>>
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