On Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:02:59 -0800, you wrote:
quoted 20 lines From: (Greg Eden)>From: (Greg Eden)
>Subject: Re: (idm) underground v mainstream
>
>On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:49:53 -0800, 4th World wrote:
>>>2. they are *white* , this is a race issue , why has the music of black
>>> pioneers like carl craig , mike banks, derrick may , juan atkins been
>>> ignored in the us for the last 10 years , miles davis had the same problem ,
>>> as longs as it is watered down , reconstituted and sold with a white face
>>> america will by it
>
>>none of the above have ever made any pop music. so they are not
>>popular acts.
>>the prodigy and the chemical brothers and even to some degree orbital
>>make pop music. so they are popular acts.
>
>the chemical brothers , orbital - pop music, get a grip
>so any artist who gets into the charts could be designated as
>pop music because they are *popular*, irrespective of their generic
>style of music, what about all the early warp acts like LFO that got
>in the charts - are they 'pop music'
eh? charts have nothing to do with it pop music isn't just popular
music. and it isn't all bad. warp have released a few records that
could be termed pop(ish, anyway) in the past, LFO - LFO in it own way
was quite pop, the vocal mix on N.O.W: Stars is quite pop, Jimi Tenor
Outta Space, Kid Unknown nightmare walking, Sabres Wilmot, they are
all moderately pop with vocal and melody hooks.
are you telling me that that chem bros setting sun thing wasn't pop?
orbital (see also the chem bros) are sacharin sweet and hence
palatable for most, relatively non-repetative, melodies etc etc. they
are perfect pop 'techno' which is whey they are so successful,
students who want to get into 'the underground' or be a bit different
whatever - it's always orbital. different but not too different. it's
'nice' music.
R-Tyme despite the fact it is just about the best piece of music ever
made (not that derrick had much to do with it hehe or much of anything
by the sounds of it) is not pop nor is ever likely to be, neither is
No UFOS, strings of life, my machines, etc etc.
heh I might as well go the whole hog and say that women (generally
Helen :) would buy orbital (and chem bros(?)) but wouldn't ever buy a
red planet 12". which also accounts for their sales. the detroit crew
cut out 50% of the population...
OnNow: jimi tenor vodka glasses