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From:
Cody Ochs
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Date:
Thu, 6 Jul 1995 13:19:20 -0700
Subject:
Exploitation (Was:Re: Deep Forest)
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quoted 8 lines On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Pete Ashdown wrote:>On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Pete Ashdown wrote: > >> >>deepforest-- some 1 PLEAZ review thee new album. >> >> >a statement of fact: >> >I own a (very small) record store where it is our policy to let people >> >listen to an album before purchasing it. I have yet to sell one copy of the >> >new Deep Forest. I sold plenty of the first one. Draw your own
conclusions...
quoted 4 lines My short review:>> >> My short review: >> >> TELL THOSE DAMN BULGARIANS TO SHUT UP!
Actually, as I thought I said before, most of the music on this album is taken from gypsy traditions,and the one song called "Bulgarian Melody" does not even resemble one (a Bulgarian melody, that is)to me. I think that it is the arrangement that bothers me the most. Yes, the Bulgarian Women's Choir do perform arrangements of "Bulgarian Melodies" also, but these arrangements seem to expand on what is already there. This arrangement (Deep Forest) seems to sterilize the music. (Risking putting my foot in my mouth...)It seems also that the performer is not as familiar with the Bulgarian vocal tradition as say, Lisa Gerrard or Elisabeth Fraser.
quoted 1 line I believe that the only sample subjects they were able to find in the>> I believe that the only sample subjects they were able to find in the
region were >>either vagrants, senior citizens, and/or victims of severe indigestion. 1/10 Many people would describe the gypsies this way...
quoted 4 lines I refuse to get the album because I think the whole project is a really>I refuse to get the album because I think the whole project is a really >explioitive neo-colonialist hunk of shit. The idea of taking all these >voices and decontextualizing them and then placing them within a feel >good "multi-cultural" context is really problematic,
Is this really the problem? I mean, many people in the field do similar things. How many of the Didgeridoo sounds you hear in idm are played by the artist using the sound? (R James comes immediately to mind...). The problem for me is that Deep Forest are lifting not samples, but entire melodies and songs, and giving them a dance beat. This places them on a level with Vanilla Ice or MC Hammer (remember them?), who just lifted hooks from pop songs, rapped over them, and called it a new creation. Because the songs are, for the most part, intact, it belittles them to turn them into dance hits. If you don't believe me, buy a copy of the "Latcho Drom" soundtrack (wherefrom are many of these samples)and listen to the original versions of these songs. There is power and emotion in these recordings that a dance beat destroys. For myself, there is some difference between the first and second Deep Forest albums, and I think it is this: The first album used the voices of the Baka Pygmies as another instrument or texture in their creations. Voices were looped, chopped, processed, and mixed to add to what was an original creation. The new album is a simple discofication of ethnic musics, a sort of "Stars On Gypsy Laments" (does anybody else remember--and cringe with that memory--the Stars On 45?). Ah, finally! I was wondering why the new album irritated me so much, but never spent the time to think about it. c Cody Junior's Farm Records an interesting selection of music jrsfarm@tyrell.net send your wantlists http://www.tyrell.net/~jrsfarm/ visit our web pages