I personally have always told my friends that IDM stands for
inteligent dance music. This opens it up to what I think it is and
moves a listenner into an easier position when defining it.
The word inteligent not only suggests that you cannot always dance to
it but it opens the classification to more types of music thus
propelling the genre into the next step. For example, why can't a
mashup be idm? How about photec? Is si-begg idm? I say yes to all
(well, on a track by track level)
Stop being purists to idm being a production technique. It is a
classification of sound. Music is wonderful let's discuss how it is
moving forwards from ... not how it is moving away from ...
Oh, and to be fair to the list as a whole, it does not live in the
past and that is why we are still here, to learn more from each other
and forward ourselves.
</Rant>
Benjamin
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On 9 Jul 2008, at 03:31, "Sim David" <pmxds@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
quoted 115 lines I pretty much totally agree with this.> I pretty much totally agree with this.
>
> Maybe I'm seeing the past through rose tinted spectacles, but part
> of what appealed about the IDM list when I originally joined it a
> decade or so ago was that the music up for discussion wasn't a
> restricted thing, it was more about any sort of forward thinking
> electronic music that made sense for home listening as well as (or
> instead of) for dancing. Sure there was lots of Warp / Skam / Musik
> Aus Strom / Schematic stuff discussed, but also everyone from Jeff
> Mills to Spring Heeled Jack to Basic Channel to El-P to The Orb.
>
> So yeah, it seems kind of weird and a bit sad that the list is
> mostly stuck talking about one particular strand of nineties
> electronic music rather than discussing, embracing, arguing about,
> comparing or getting bored with any of the range of newer stuff
> that's out there.
>
> (By the by, for more dubstep that might appeal to IDM fans, the
> Geiom album is well worth a look. Melodies and bleeps meet bass and
> atmospherics, quite chilled, very nice. And the Subtle Audio
> compilation is worth checking on the leftfield dnb front. DJ support
> from Richard D James, can't be bad...)
>
> d.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: thorsten@highpointlowlife.com [mailto:thorsten@highpointlowlife.com
> ]
> Sent: Tue 08/07/2008 18:28
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [idm] new stuff
>
>
>
> i have to admit, i totally don't understand why people still cling
> to this idea
> of autechre/aphex/squarepusher/BoC era IDM.
>
> Sure, nostalgia is nice, we all have lots of good memories, but it
> seems kinda
> the anithesis of IDM which i was always interested in because it was
> pushing the
> boundaries of electronic music, doing something new and different,
> new textures,
> rhythms, structures. Well most of those releases are all like 14
> years old now,
> and i feel its kinda dadtronica now.
>
> why aren't we talking about all the new exciting electronic music
> being produced
> these days? Theres a lot of different strands, from dubstep to the
> instrumental
> electronic hip hop stuff, 8bit, noise beats, 2step. It may not be
> IDM, but i
> think the idea behind them all is pretty much the same as people
> doing IDM in
> that early ninties era - pushing things out, trying new things.
>
> at a glance through my music library, i would pick out stuff like:
>
> herrmutt lobby
> joker
> martyn
> samiyam
> flying lotus
> rustie
> 2562 / a made up sound
> appleblim
> peverlist
> benga
> kaman leung
> ras g
> disrupt
> ikonika
> cloaks
> moving ninja
> darkstar
> redshape
> efdemin
> murmur
> ramadanman
> scuba (i don't actually much like this album but its quite idm)
> strategy
> T++
> trg
> zomby
>
>
> thoughts?
> (I know i've missed out a bunch of good stuff here, but i'm on my
> work machine
> which has only a subset of my music collection.)
>
> *ducks head for incoming flames*
> thor
>
>
>
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