I think all genres inherently get bigger with time. when it initially
appears on a scene, a genre tends to be defined by fairly strict
structure/culture rules that initially set it apart and mark it as a
particular sound.
as more and more time passes and a larger base of fans gets into a genre,
the genre's boundaries are going to widen. I think this is because as new
people come in, they didn't necessarily come with the structure/culture
rules that originally defined the sound, and are then led to make their own
distinctions about what the culture and sound mean, and ultimately you end
up with a bunch of subcultures within a subculture.
it's like techno, i know so many people who are into "techno" but what we
define as techno is so varying and obtuse that we are rarely talking about
the same thing. hell, i have friends that say if something is under 133 bpms
it can't possibly be techno music, and threw magic because house regardless
of the sounds contained. what?
i think this is part of the problem that IDM has been facing lately, no one
knows what the fuck it is anymore, but as someone pointed out... why are we
still talking about autechre, rdj, squarepusher and boc albums that came out
more than a decade ago? i think for all electronic music that is a bit of a
guiding light; old is good... but new can be better. an example of that
would be autechre's new album which, admittedly i'm not a huge fan of, but i
will say this about. they are doing the music they did a long, long time
ago, but now they are doing it the way they wish they could have done then.
i'm starting to ramble... my point is this, really, thorsten's list of stuff
that he put up earlier... -I- wouldn't call any of it IDM... looks like a
bunch of dubstep and nu-trance techno to me... i have no idea what idm is
anymore... i know that a lot of the stuff that comes out on RSC is IDM to
me... and i guess that's all that matters.
umm... still rambling, the point point is who cares, let's all listen to
music and be friends. :)
joshua.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Arcturus Design <arcturusbtw@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 19 lines So, what youre saying is that that "was" IDM, and now we need to figure out
> So, what youre saying is that that "was" IDM, and now we need to figure out
> was "is" IDM. On this point, IDM can't be restricted to just one style of
> music. The braindance of the 90s was definitely cutting edge, so they
> called
> it IDM. Did they mean this as the name for their work at that moment, or
> were they naming something that was supposed to shift with time, a name to
> call all cutting edge electronica? No matter what, if someone's music is
> new
> and exciting, in ten years amateur musicians will know how to duplicate the
> sounds. Just because the music is outdated, is it pushed out of the
> "cutting
> edge only" IDM genre? In that case, IDM isnt even a genre, its more of a
> descriptive word.
>
> Is IDM a descriptive quality, or is it a genre that keeps getting bigger
> with time?
>
> -Arcturus
>
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