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1994-09-30 23:21Tamara Palmer Planet Dog Records (long)
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└─ 1994-10-02 20:44Greg Earle Re: EAR/Rational? (Really Re: In Order To Dance 5)
├─ 1994-10-03 02:58Dave Steinhart Re: EAR/Rational? (Really Re: In Order To Dance 5)
│ └─ 1994-10-03 03:51Greg Earle Re: EAR/Rational? (Really Re: In Order To Dance 5)
└─ 1994-10-03 11:48Dave Walker Re: EAR/Rational? (Really Re: In Order To Dance 5)
1994-10-02 20:02Lazlo Nibble Ear rational?
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1994-09-30 23:21Tamara PalmerI thought I would share my article on Planet Dog Records with you. It will be in the next
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I thought I would share my article on Planet Dog Records with you. It will be in the next issue of Underground News ("The Electronic Dance Music Issue"): Planet Dog Records by Tamara Palmer "Superficial music has always really pissed me off," says Michael Dog, head of London's Planet Dog Records. "A huge amount of resources - money, time, and attention - is paid to music that is very superficial and, to me, is geared around keeping people in their place. You know, keep the kids happy by making them jump up and down a lot and they won't think too hard." With a motto that reads: "reaching the brain cells other labels just can't reach," thought is clearly at the heart of Planet Dog Records. "There is an attitude and an intention here which is meant to be uplifting and inspiring rather than just entertaining," observes Toby Marks. The man behind Banco de Gaia, Toby has been with Planet Dog since the get-go and holds a pivotal role in exposing the public to the Planet Dog philosophy of sound. Following the success of his first single for Planet Dog, the renowned "Desert Wind", Banco de Gaia returned last February with his debut album, Maya . Entering the British album charts at Number 35, Maya is a cornucopia of worldly sounds, traditional ethnic instruments from various lands infused with Western electronic music. A remix EP for one of the standout tracks, "Heliopolis", is on the way. A homegrown, caring attitude towards music and life has proven to be a successful formula for Banco de Gaia as well the handful of other releases that have emerged from the Planet Dog roster, a list which includes the likes of Eat Static, Timeshard, and Children of the Bong. Popular support and critical acclaim in England, most resoundingly for their breakthrough compilation, Feed Your Head , have been some of the rewards for this hardworking label. Planet Dog began in May of 1991 as a natural extension of Michael and Bob Dog's Club Dog, a successful event that has run regularly in North London and periodically in other British locales since 1984. From its modest beginnings of close to 50 attendants, Club Dog now regularly plays to 2000 people and draws twice that number for special events. Both Eat Static and Banco de Gaia aligned themselves with the experimentations of Club Dog early on, helping create an atmosphere that has become legendary in England. Dedicated to exploring many different genres of music throughout the course of an evening, a typical night at Club Dog features four bands and at least that many DJs, who spin in between live sets. The music may range from the deepest of dub and pure ambient straight on to upfront dancefloor electronica, with many stops in between. Laborious attention is paid to the look and feel of the club itself, with the use of elaborate hangings, lighting, and other means of visual stimulation. "It's amazing," says Toby Marks. "They always make a lot of effort to decorate and to create a really pleasant environment, rather than just putting some lights in and having a PA. They have hangings and projectors. At the bigger gigs they hang cloth across the ceilings so that you've got a large area to project onto. They create a much more cozy and comfortable atmosphere [than the other clubs]." This total package, many will tell you, makes for an eccentric and crazy vibe. "Club Dog is...hmm...really mad," chuckles Merv Pepler of Eat Static, whose debut album, Abduction , was Planet Dog's first release. "There's always something unexpected happening, you've got to expect the unexpected. I've seen people dressed up as cardboard boxes just walking around. It's really obscure." The year 1991 brought the beginning of Megadog, a larger- scale touring show formed against a brilliant multimedia backdrop. Last year, Megadog was instrumental in staging the MIDI Circus Tour, the veritable Lollapalooza of the electronic music world that featured The Drum Club, Orbital, Eat Static, Aphex Twin, and Psychic Warriors ov Gaia. "Club Dog and Megadog are sort of distinct things from one another," Michael Dog clarifies. "Club Dog is a smaller event and has a very wide musical base to it, of what music we put on both live and as DJs. Megadog has become a more specifically dance and electronic event." The excitement of live music that is nurtured through Club Dog and Megadog is a primary concern that has carried over to the label. The initial reason for starting up Planet Dog was to put out music made by bands that perform at the club, to release material that sparks the joyous feelings of watching a live show. The recorded material serves as a reference point or reminder to a thoughtful experience had at a gig, or as a preface to experiencing these bands in the live realm. "Bands that are usually really good at projecting in a live show are the type of bands that go on to record with Planet Dog," Merv Pepler points out . "The live thing is as important, if not more important, than what you put out on a record. A lot of dance labels in England just sign DJs or production teams or stuff that they've heard on tape and they don't necessarily care if the person can play live or not. So you get a lot of these acts that never play live." Playing live is nothing new to Eat Static. As the drummer and keyboardist for the British progressive rock band, Ozric Tentacles, Merv Pepler and Joie Hinton spent a lot of time on the road, focusing primarily on their live performances. Merv and Joie have recently parted company with the Ozrics in order to concentrate on Eat Static full-time. Their follow-up to their first album, Abduction , came in the form of Implant , which was released in June of 1994. A new EP is on the way, a remix for fellow English counterparts The Shamen is in the works, and Implant has been significantly reworked for the stage, a project that particularly delights Merv. While Americans are just catching on to the sound of electronic head music, it has been the status quo in England for the last few years. Planet Dog is already primed to take things to the next level. "With Megadog, we're trying to broaden out the brief here," says Michael. "In this next year, we're looking at actually coming out of electronic music a little bit and focusing in a bit more on other dance music forms like reggae and the newer aspects of hip hop, what they like to call 'trip hop'. [Music that's] more head-orientated but that isn't necessarily dance music." This direction is being paralleled within the label itself, evidenced in part by their two newest artists, Timeshard and Children of the Bong. "Timeshard and Children of the Bong have their own angle on electronic music," says Michael. "Timeshard is already working in live instruments with what they do. They have live guitar and sitar as well as a lot of live analogue keyboards that they're actually playing live rather than just relying on sequences. They have been best described as the electronic Captain Beefheart, with a lot of odd time signatures with their music. They are making music that in the past would have been made in a conventional band lineup but on electronic instruments. With Children of the Bong," he continues, " they combine the best aspects of techno and dub and fuse them together. They've grown up in the era of techno because they're only 20. They haven't known much before techno and electro so they're already bored by techno and want to push the boundaries a bit more. What they've done is taken some of the more psychedelic aspects of techno, the synth sounds, but fused it with hip hop rhythms and basslines and experimenting all the time. They're young and don't have preconceptions about how their tracks should sound." As Planet Dog continues to cross sonic boundaries, their original thrust and intention is being increasingly understood. It's not just about music, but about life. Michael Dog concludes, "The music that I've always gone for and the music I feel that we put out is meant to make people think. By people thinking, they can then eventually affect change for all of us. I'm not saying that Planet Dog is going to change the world or make the world a better place, but indirectly by our music and the whole headspace that goes with it, if it gets people thinking about life, the universe, and everything then some of them might hone in on certain aspects of their lives and what they see around them that they don't think is that good and maybe try and bring about some change." Hug Your Waistline to the Bassline............................................ Tamara Palmer * trance@netcom.com * izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu * .........................................................Women Respond to Bass
1994-10-02 19:26alt@ccwf.cc.utexas.eduSorry if this is the wrong place 2 ask.. but can someone drop me the address for ear ratio
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Sorry if this is the wrong place 2 ask.. but can someone drop me the address for ear rational (or any other net accessable places 2 buy idm)... I just went to a local shop & the prices are absurd (nearly $40 for "In order 2 dance 5") .. thought maybe ear rational or someone else might be a bit less likely to gut me > :) < Thx. _Dan
1994-10-02 20:44Greg Earle> Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask ... but can someone drop me the > address for EA
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quoted 5 lines Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask ... but can someone drop me the> Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask ... but can someone drop me the > address for EAR/Rational (or any other net accessable places to buy idm) ... > I just went to a local shop & the prices are absurd (nearly $40 for "In Order > To Dance 5") ... thought maybe EAR/Rational or someone else might be a bit > less likely to gut me > :) <
Send an email to "ear-rational@XMission.COM" with the word "catalog" in the "Subject:" header. You'll get a catalog back and ordering information is contained within. Here's some comparison shopping on "In Order To Dance 5" based on an excursion I made to Hollywood yesterday ... Here's Dave's listing in his September catalog (haven't gotten October's yet): V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) [19083] R&S $33.50 # V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox = 19086] $269.00 He didn't have a listing for the 3-CD version (RS 94036 X), surprisingly. I went to DMC, a Techno/Trance/Acid/Jungle specialty store (read: $$$) first: V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (5-LP boxed set) R&S $41.99 V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) R&S $2?.?? V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD/CDS ltd. ed.) R&S N/A V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox] $346.00 Then I went over to Aron's, an alternative/general store (read: cheaper) next: V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (5-LP boxed set) R&S $34.09 V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) R&S $23.98 V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD/CDS ltd. ed.) R&S $28.98 V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox] N/A I was surprised to see that Aron's price for the limited edition 2CD+CD5 was cheaper than EAR/Rational's. I was *not* surprised in the slightest to see that DMC would try and rip people off so much for the Exorcist puke green lucite version (or the vinyl box set, either). Their prices are really bad. I only buy stuff from them if Aron's doesn't have it, i.e. things like 12" (Just found the old Locust "Needle" 12" there yesterday, and a Ken Ishii 12" on +8 from last year ... ooops, there I go again, buying "Trendy" labels like Apollo ... ) As for "In Order To Dance 5" itself, it's fantastic. The main double-CD has some excellent tracks (though why Renaat chose "Phi*1700" from the mu-Ziq 12" I can't understand) and I was very happy to find out that some of the lesser-known acts were just as exciting as the known (I am particularly impressed by the Speed Jack, Teste, 69, and Sensurreal tracks at the moment). The limited edition version CDS contains 6 tracks (Wild West, 69, Minimal Vision, Sun Electric, Ken Ishii and Link a.k.a. Mark Pritchard of Reload/G.C.). As much as I love Sun Electric, Ken Ishii and Reload/G.C., none of these tracks on the extra CDS are really essential. (The extra tracks are available on the LP version and with the lucite version.) As far as the lucite version goes, it's really neat ... but for a 1/10th of the price you can get the same music and there's a 2-D picture of the lucite thingy on the cover of the 2CD case anyway :-) So save your cash. I bought the ltd. ed. 2CD+CDS version, but if you're on a budget, save yourself $5 and get the regular version. You not really missing out on much ... - Greg
1994-10-03 02:58Dave Steinhart> Send an email to "ear-rational@XMission.COM" with the word "catalog" in the > "Subject:"
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quoted 11 lines Send an email to "ear-rational@XMission.COM" with the word "catalog" i> Send an email to "ear-rational@XMission.COM" with the word "catalog" in the > "Subject:" header. You'll get a catalog back and ordering information is > contained within. > > Here's some comparison shopping on "In Order To Dance 5" based on an excursion > I made to Hollywood yesterday ... > > Here's Dave's listing in his September catalog (haven't gotten October's yet): > > V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) [19083] R&S $33.50 # > V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox = 19086] $269.00
Already sent this to the list once, but I feel I should reiterate. Those prices were based on the initial overcharging by R&S. My current prices are V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) [19083] R&S $24.00-# V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD + Bonus CD-5) [19082] R&S $29.00-# V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox = 19086] $239.00-# V/A - In Order to Dance 5 5x12" limited edition [19088] R&S $28.50-#
quoted 1 line He didn't have a listing for the 3-CD version (RS 94036 X), surprisingly.> He didn't have a listing for the 3-CD version (RS 94036 X), surprisingly.
See above. Sorry to pick nits, but I feel I should at least be able to correct my own prices! Dave
1994-10-03 03:51Greg Earle>> Here's some comparison shopping on "In Order To Dance 5" based on an >> excursion I mad
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quoted 19 lines Here's some comparison shopping on "In Order To Dance 5" based on an>> Here's some comparison shopping on "In Order To Dance 5" based on an >> excursion I made to Hollywood yesterday ... >> >> Here's Dave's listing in his September catalog (haven't gotten October yet): >> >> V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) [19083] R&S $33.50 >> V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox = 19086] $269.00 > >Already sent this to the list once, but I feel I should reiterate. Those >prices were based on the initial overcharging by R&S. My current prices are > >V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD) [19083] R&S $24.00-# >V/A - In Order to Dance 5 (2-CD + Bonus CD-5) [19082] R&S $29.00-# >V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox = 19086] $239.00-# >V/A - In Order to Dance 5 5x12" limited edition [19088] R&S $28.50-# > >> He didn't have a listing for the 3-CD version (RS 94036 X), surprisingly. > >See above.
Well, I did say that I hadn't gotten October's catalog yet :-)
quoted 2 lines Sorry to pick nits, but I feel I should at least be able to correct my own>Sorry to pick nits, but I feel I should at least be able to correct my own >prices!
Yep. I *knew* there had to be a good reason for why Aron's was seemingly charging less than you do :-) It's clear at this point that the only reason to trek all the way to Hollywood anymore if you want CDs is if you don't have any money and have to pretend that you can afford it via using plastic :-) Dave is only a Visa/Mastercard/Discover processing mechanism away from Total Global Domination ... :-) - Greg
1994-10-03 11:48Dave WalkerOn Sun, 2 Oct 1994, Greg Earle wrote: > V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass
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On Sun, 2 Oct 1994, Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 1 line V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox] $346.00> V/A - In Order to Dance 5 [2-CD/CDS in plexiglass lightbox] $346.00
This may be relevant or not, but I talked to the buyer at my local shop about this, and he said his _cost_ on this item was $250, so depending on how many middlemen your local store has to go through, this price may be excusable. It's just for trainspotter collectorskum anyway, so let them pay through the nose. :) ----------------------------------------------------------------- dave walker, detroit art services _ marmoset@msen.com play sim freeke <A HREF="http://www.msen.com/~marmoset/">Dave Walker</A>
1994-10-02 20:02Lazlo Nibble> Sorry if this is the wrong place 2 ask.. but can someone drop me the > address for ear r
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quoted 2 lines Sorry if this is the wrong place 2 ask.. but can someone drop me the> Sorry if this is the wrong place 2 ask.. but can someone drop me the > address for ear rational...
ear-rational@xmission.com. Send mail with CATALOG as the subject and you'll get emailed the current catalog. -- Lazlo (lazlo@rt66.com)