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Re: Okay, how's about a question of ethics?

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1993-09-17 08:43Ned Andrew Raggett Okay, how's about a question of ethics?
1993-09-17 16:17Dana Watanabe Re: Okay, how's about a question of ethics?
1993-09-18 14:04Stephen Hebditch Re: Okay, how's about a question of ethics?
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1993-09-17 08:43Ned Andrew RaggettDear non-existent Lord Above, what a response! I go away for a day and look what happens!
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Ned Andrew Raggett
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Fri, 17 Sep 93 01:43:09 -0700
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Dear non-existent Lord Above, what a response! I go away for a day and look what happens! Cool responses, people; they make for great reading! Anyway, here's a more cerebral (and possibly more pointless) posit: in a recent Melody Maker, Simon Reynolds dismissed the recent remixes for Curve done by Future Sound of London and the Drum Club. Not for being musically bad, mind you, but because the remixers were so "blatantly hip". To build from that--is it good or bad that a variety of recent, non-techno/dance acts (mostly British outfits such as Curve, Lush, Chapterhouse, and the Boo Radleys) seek out remixes by supposedly 'blatantly hip' artists (besides the above mentioned outfits, Spooky, St. Etienne, the Aphex Twin, and the ever-lovin' Orb)? The Drum Club themselves have said in an interview that they feel it's a good thing simply because such artists as Curve realize where the true cutting edge is, yet I do have to say that you can't help but feel more than a few of these bands are chasing after the ravers in much the same way that everyone was yelping the words "Manchester" and "Seattle" not too long ago. Hipness for hipnesses' sake and demographic pursuits, no more. Any thoughts? NAR
1993-09-17 16:17Dana WatanabeJust one random thought on Curve is that Toni et al go to raves and im assuming part of wh
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Dana Watanabe
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Fri, 17 Sep 93 9:17:03 PDT
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Just one random thought on Curve is that Toni et al go to raves and im assuming part of why they go is that they enjoy the music... So by having a remix done by FSOL is just having a remix done by someone who puts out music that they enjoy.. Dont know about the rest... but id assume it could be similar or not... its definitely not as bad lets say.. SOnic YOuth getting someone to come in and sad "Word UP" and think thats rapping If they ever try to do a joint venture with Stone Temple Pilots then we can worry , dana
1993-09-18 14:04Stephen HebditchIn article <199309170843.AA04924@orion.oac.uci.edu>, Ned Andrew Raggett <eahg119@orion.oac
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Sat, 18 Sep 1993 14:04:40 GMT
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In article <199309170843.AA04924@orion.oac.uci.edu>, Ned Andrew Raggett <eahg119@orion.oac.uci.edu> wrote:
quoted 5 lines To build from that--is it good or bad that a variety of recent,>To build from that--is it good or bad that a variety of recent, >non-techno/dance acts (mostly British outfits such as Curve, Lush, >Chapterhouse, and the Boo Radleys) seek out remixes by supposedly >'blatantly hip' artists (besides the above mentioned outfits, Spooky, >St. Etienne, the Aphex Twin, and the ever-lovin' Orb)?
It's just a way of ensuring a better chart position. Getting in the UK top forty singles chart is a springboard to making lots of money worldwide, completely out of all proportion to the actual number of sales these days. The market has also got extremely fragmented, further lowering sales of non-(very)mainstream artists. By targetting a range of different markets through different mixes, you can artificially inflate your chart position. You first get in someone like Paul Okenfold to do your radio mix, specially geared to the tastes of the heads of music at the three most influential radio stations: the national Radio One, London's Capital FM and Glasgow's Clyde 1. Then you look at the main segments of clubland at the time. Perhaps a rave mix from Carl Cox for the kiddies, Danny Rampling to do the happy house, DJ Pierre for something trancey. Depending on the remixer you might also hope to pick up a few extra sales from the completists who just have to have everything a particular remixer has done. Oh, and make sure you put out white labels of the different mixes with minimal info on them so they can pick up a following in the clubs and on specialist radio without getting a negative vibe over the real artist's name. Wot me, cynical? :-) -- Stephen Hebditch TQM Communications steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk +44 836 825962