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Any of you that have recently, or not so recently, lost faith in IDM must go out and get a copy of the new Kiln album on Ghostly.. Beats that pop and snap over floating melodies that remind me of what idm was like ten years ago. Well thought out and well produced. It's also rare to see an idm act these days that's more than a solo act. Three people make up Kiln, yet they're able to leave out all non-electronic instruments, which is a plus considering half the idm releases these days are filled with guitars, drums, bass, etc... Not that those things are necessarily a negative aspect, but it's nice to see three people get together and push just the elctronic side of idm. Now i'm spouting off.. Regardless, there seems to still be hope in the world of idm. -kiya www.selfedge.com www.turfsm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

which album do u mean? dusker? i hear guitars in there ; ) cheerz mark Am 08.12.2007 um 18:34 schrieb Kiya Babzani:

quoted 19 lines Any of you that have recently, or not so recently, lost faith in

> Any of you that have recently, or not so recently, lost faith in > IDM must go out and get a copy of the new Kiln album on Ghostly.. > > Beats that pop and snap over floating melodies that remind me of > what idm was like ten years ago. Well thought out and well produced. > It's also rare to see an idm act these days that's more than a solo > act. > Three people make up Kiln, yet they're able to leave out all non- > electronic instruments, which is a plus considering half the idm > releases these days are filled with guitars, drums, bass, etc... > Not that those things are necessarily a negative aspect, but it's > nice to see three people get together and push just the elctronic > side of idm. > Now i'm spouting off.. > Regardless, there seems to still be hope in the world of idm. > > -kiya > www.selfedge.com > www.turfsm.com

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Whats wrong with guitars? Why does that lower your impression of the album? On Dec 9, 2007 9:38 PM, Kiya Babzani <denial@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

quoted 49 lines Stop being a dick softener, I love this album and I'd like to believe

> Stop being a dick softener, I love this album and I'd like to believe > there > are no guitars. > > -kiya > On 12/9/07 12:39 PM, "underscan" <list@underscan.de> wrote: > > > which album do u mean? > > dusker? > > > > i hear guitars in there ; ) > > > > cheerz > > mark > > > > Am 08.12.2007 um 18:34 schrieb Kiya Babzani: > > > >> Any of you that have recently, or not so recently, lost faith in > >> IDM must go out and get a copy of the new Kiln album on Ghostly.. > >> > >> Beats that pop and snap over floating melodies that remind me of > >> what idm was like ten years ago. Well thought out and well produced. > >> It's also rare to see an idm act these days that's more than a solo > >> act. > >> Three people make up Kiln, yet they're able to leave out all non- > >> electronic instruments, which is a plus considering half the idm > >> releases these days are filled with guitars, drums, bass, etc... > >> Not that those things are necessarily a negative aspect, but it's > >> nice to see three people get together and push just the elctronic > >> side of idm. > >> Now i'm spouting off.. > >> Regardless, there seems to still be hope in the world of idm. > >> > >> -kiya > >> www.selfedge.com > >> www.turfsm.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

It doesn't not at all... Like I said earlier, I've been on this list for about 12 years and I've listened to IDM and Rockabilly for over 12 years and I have certain psychotic notions about the music I listen to that carries through every last second of anything I hear. I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't feel the need to include analog instruments in the recording because that seems to the be status quo for any other artist within the last five years or so. -kiya On 12/9/07 9:39 PM, "Matt Wilder" <grewaru@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 55 lines Whats wrong with guitars? Why does that lower your impression of the album?

> Whats wrong with guitars? Why does that lower your impression of the album? > > > On Dec 9, 2007 9:38 PM, Kiya Babzani <denial@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >> Stop being a dick softener, I love this album and I'd like to believe >> there >> are no guitars. >> >> -kiya >> On 12/9/07 12:39 PM, "underscan" <list@underscan.de> wrote: >> >>> which album do u mean? >>> dusker? >>> >>> i hear guitars in there ; ) >>> >>> cheerz >>> mark >>> >>> Am 08.12.2007 um 18:34 schrieb Kiya Babzani: >>> >>>> Any of you that have recently, or not so recently, lost faith in >>>> IDM must go out and get a copy of the new Kiln album on Ghostly.. >>>> >>>> Beats that pop and snap over floating melodies that remind me of >>>> what idm was like ten years ago. Well thought out and well produced. >>>> It's also rare to see an idm act these days that's more than a solo >>>> act. >>>> Three people make up Kiln, yet they're able to leave out all non- >>>> electronic instruments, which is a plus considering half the idm >>>> releases these days are filled with guitars, drums, bass, etc... >>>> Not that those things are necessarily a negative aspect, but it's >>>> nice to see three people get together and push just the elctronic >>>> side of idm. >>>> Now i'm spouting off.. >>>> Regardless, there seems to still be hope in the world of idm. >>>> >>>> -kiya >>>> www.selfedge.com >>>> www.turfsm.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >

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--On 09 December 2007 21:42 -0800 Kiya Babzani <denial@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't

> I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't > feel the need to include analog instruments in the recording because that > seems to the be status quo for any other artist within the last five years > or so.

I know what is meant here, and am likewise quite happy to entertain music involving guitars that just *happens to have* guitars in it rather than flaunting its 'guitarity' as some form of injection of we're-so-worthy 'organic' and/or (bogus) 'musicianly' credibility (indirectly diminishing synthesizers and acousmatics. etc), or just jumping on the post-indietronica bandwagon. About 6 months back I observed, at the start of a review of FAX's "Primario" (Static Discos):-

quoted 1 line “The electric guitar is central to Primario,” which pronouncement from

> “The electric guitar is central to Primario,” which pronouncement from

Fax honcho Ruben A. Tamayo should alert us that all is not well in the house of Fax. Not that there’s anything inherently wrong with electric guitar, just that this wielding of it as some kind of significative totem bodes ill. And, as it turns out, ill-suspicions are confirmed as he strays, previously minimal-tech and microhouse-trained, into unsalubrious downtempo waters on this his third album.[...]< I do like "Dusker" quite a bit too, and its feeling that it just happens to have some guitar on it as mere incidental. alan ---------------------- Alan Lockett (Senior Language Co-ordinator - EFL) Language Centre, University of Bristol, 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol, BS8 1PY, UK tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 e-mail: Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I have asked hyperreal.org twice to take my name off the idm mailing list - I don't know how I got on it. I am appealing now to this list with the hope that one of you is an administrator for it and will take my name off. It's clogging up my email big time! Alan Lockett <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: --On 09 December 2007 21:42 -0800 Kiya Babzani wrote:

quoted 4 lines I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't

> I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't > feel the need to include analog instruments in the recording because that > seems to the be status quo for any other artist within the last five years > or so.

I know what is meant here, and am likewise quite happy to entertain music involving guitars that just *happens to have* guitars in it rather than flaunting its 'guitarity' as some form of injection of we're-so-worthy 'organic' and/or (bogus) 'musicianly' credibility (indirectly diminishing synthesizers and acousmatics. etc), or just jumping on the post-indietronica bandwagon. About 6 months back I observed, at the start of a review of FAX's "Primario" (Static Discos):-

quoted 1 line “The electric guitar is central to Primario,” which pronouncement from

> “The electric guitar is central to Primario,” which pronouncement from

Fax honcho Ruben A. Tamayo should alert us that all is not well in the house of Fax. Not that there’s anything inherently wrong with electric guitar, just that this wielding of it as some kind of significative totem bodes ill. And, as it turns out, ill-suspicions are confirmed as he strays, previously minimal-tech and microhouse-trained, into unsalubrious downtempo waters on this his third album.[...]< I do like "Dusker" quite a bit too, and its feeling that it just happens to have some guitar on it as mere incidental. alan ---------------------- Alan Lockett (Senior Language Co-ordinator - EFL) Language Centre, University of Bristol, 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol, BS8 1PY, UK tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 e-mail: Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org Kathe Gogolewski http://www.TRI-Studio.com NEW! The Mother Daughter Club radio show www.byforandaboutwomen.com The Fiction Flyer: www.tri-studio.com/ezine.html From Amazon: short stories for 49 cents: The Gold Coin: http://www.amazon.com/The-Gold-Coin/dp/B000IB0JHK/ref=pd_ts_b_13/102-3993851-2836959?ie=UTF8&s=books

IDM POR VIDA YO. -kiya www.selfedge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Have you tried the instructions for unsubscribing from the mailing list? To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org It's on the bottom of every email... -----Original Message----- From: Kathe Gogolewski [mailto:kgogolewski@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:21 PM To: Alan Lockett; Kiya Babzani; idm list Subject: Re: [idm] Kiln - Dusker (Ghostly Records) I have asked hyperreal.org twice to take my name off the idm mailing list - I don't know how I got on it. I am appealing now to this list with the hope that one of you is an administrator for it and will take my name off. It's clogging up my email big time! Alan Lockett <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk> wrote: --On 09 December 2007 21:42 -0800 Kiya Babzani wrote:

quoted 4 lines I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't

> I was merely saying that it's refreshing to hear an IDM album that didn't > feel the need to include analog instruments in the recording because that > seems to the be status quo for any other artist within the last five years > or so.

I know what is meant here, and am likewise quite happy to entertain music involving guitars that just *happens to have* guitars in it rather than flaunting its 'guitarity' as some form of injection of we're-so-worthy 'organic' and/or (bogus) 'musicianly' credibility (indirectly diminishing synthesizers and acousmatics. etc), or just jumping on the post-indietronica bandwagon. About 6 months back I observed, at the start of a review of FAX's "Primario" (Static Discos):-

quoted 1 line "The electric guitar is central to Primario," which pronouncement from

> "The electric guitar is central to Primario," which pronouncement from

Fax honcho Ruben A. Tamayo should alert us that all is not well in the house of Fax. Not that there's anything inherently wrong with electric guitar, just that this wielding of it as some kind of significative totem bodes ill. And, as it turns out, ill-suspicions are confirmed as he strays, previously minimal-tech and microhouse-trained, into unsalubrious downtempo waters on this his third album.[...]< I do like "Dusker" quite a bit too, and its feeling that it just happens to have some guitar on it as mere incidental. alan ---------------------- Alan Lockett (Senior Language Co-ordinator - EFL) Language Centre, University of Bristol, 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol, BS8 1PY, UK tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 e-mail: Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org Kathe Gogolewski http://www.TRI-Studio.com NEW! The Mother Daughter Club radio show www.byforandaboutwomen.com The Fiction Flyer: www.tri-studio.com/ezine.html From Amazon: short stories for 49 cents: The Gold Coin: http://www.amazon.com/The-Gold-Coin/dp/B000IB0JHK/ref=pd_ts_b_13/102-3993851 -2836959?ie=UTF8&s=books --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org