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Don't forget newly redesigned Gridface: http://www.gridface.com/ (reviews, occasional interviews & mp3s) Almost ten years old and still going strong. I'm looking for more review contributors. Just posted: Ai Sampler 06 Jimmy Edgar: Color Strip Burnt Friedman & Jaki Liebezeit: Secret Rhythms 2 Sugar Minott: The Roots Lover 1978-1983 Funckarma: Elaztiq Bourbon 5 Regards, Jacob On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 00:26:35 +0100, Eikman <lists@eikman.net> wrote:

quoted 27 lines hi,

> hi, > > i'm wondering where people get their daily fix of electronic music, so > i'm looking for websites that deal with it on a regular basis (not those > who are updated twice a year with a handful of old reviews). everything > that offers more or less up-to-date content is fine, may it be news, > mp3s, reviews or concert dates. > it doesn't necessarily have to be zines or magazines, blogs that deal > with a fair amount of idm/techno/noise and the like are equally > interesting (sometimes even better), or maybe shops that offer previews > of upcoming releases. > > some of the stuff i know so far (excluding print magazines): > > www.boomkat.com (shop with audio previews) > www.textura.org (monthly features + reviews) > www.igloomag.com (reviews) > www.almostcool.org/mr/ (weekly reviews) > www.themilkfactory.co.uk (reviews/features) > www.brainwashed.com (reviews, release dates) > > (btw, i checked the idm-l archives and found quite a few posts dealing > with this topic, but most of them date years back) > > cheers, > > -e

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Just heard that the rumors are true: Coldplay's "Talk" (their new single) nicks the riff from Kraftwerk's "Computer Love" (apparently done legally): I hadn't heard the Coldplay track that uses the Kraftwerk riff till this thread came up on the 313 list (had only heard rumors). If anyone wants to compare: http://www.last.fm/music/Coldplay/_/Talk (click on the green triangle to the left of "Talk") and if you don't have your copy of Kraftwerk's Computer Love handy: http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,116410,00.html (but listen to the Windows Media clip cos the RealPlayer clip uses a different part of the song). My wife (knows Kraftwerk, not Coldplay) just heard me play the comparison and she said "Kraftwerk should sue". I hope Kraftwerk get tons of royalties from this. Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 19 lines Just heard that the rumors are true:

>Just heard that the rumors are true: >Coldplay's "Talk" (their new single) >nicks the riff from Kraftwerk's "Computer >Love" (apparently done legally): > >I hadn't heard the Coldplay track that uses the Kraftwerk riff till >this thread >came up on the 313 list (had only heard rumors). >If anyone wants to compare: >http://www.last.fm/music/Coldplay/_/Talk >(click on the green triangle to the left of "Talk") >and if you don't have your copy of Kraftwerk's >Computer Love handy: >http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,116410,00.html >(but listen to the Windows Media clip cos the RealPlayer clip uses a >different part of the song). >My wife (knows Kraftwerk, not Coldplay) just heard me play the >comparison and she said "Kraftwerk should sue". I hope Kraftwerk >get tons of royalties from this.

ugh. coldplay is just horrid. at best they are passably generic, at worst they are a watered-down, hyper-commercialized version of the most populist tendencies of decade-old radiohead. when that band got into a rut, they listened to electronic music, were rejuvenated by it, and namechecked their faves in dozens of interviews, helping the careers of lali puna, fourtet, and anyone on warp records. when they did actually sample something, it was from relatively obscure modern electronic composer paul lansky, not the same fucking band everyone else has been sampling since 1982 and which is the hippest electronic name to drop right now. i'd suggest a net project illegally sampling coldplay songs and fucking them up with electronics but it's not worth anyone's time. besides, you can get more useful samples from the dead air space between radio broadcasts than from a coldplay song. yeah, that's been done too, though i can't recall the name of the project. d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Feb 12, 2006, at 5:56 PM, chthonic streams wrote:

quoted 4 lines Just heard that the rumors are true:

>> Just heard that the rumors are true: >> Coldplay's "Talk" (their new single) >> nicks the riff from Kraftwerk's "Computer >> Love" (apparently done legally):

quoted 1 line ugh. coldplay is just horrid.....

> ugh. coldplay is just horrid.....

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Sadly, As I own the Cold0play album, I noticed that the writing credits on the track are credited to include kraftwerk as co-writers, and as such, Kraftwerk will be getting their share of publishing royalties. But I dont have my copy of either CD to hand at the moment, so can;t tell you exactly what it says! Sorry If this has already been covered... Graham __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Well, it is pretty obvious to any owner of Computer World by Kraftwerk that its just been straight nicked (It's the tune from my favourite track, Computer Love). When I first realised it I was really angry... I used to think Coldplay were very good you see, up until their latest album where frankly everything sounds similar. After their single Clocks, everything just seems to be too related. This is the icing on the cake of displeasure. You might wonder why I have any right to be angry. Well, it just irritates me that a band who have only been around for a short while (especially when compared to Kraftwork's legacy) are already using other people's tunes to get Number One chart hits. Bad move I feel. Philip --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Coldplay actually credit Kraftwerk in the liner notes for this. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks" <andrewduke@cognitionaudioworks.com> To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: [idm] Kraftwerk vs Coldplay

quoted 43 lines Just heard that the rumors are true:

> Just heard that the rumors are true: > Coldplay's "Talk" (their new single) > nicks the riff from Kraftwerk's "Computer > Love" (apparently done legally): > > I hadn't heard the Coldplay track that uses the Kraftwerk riff till this > thread > came up on the 313 list (had only heard rumors). > If anyone wants to compare: > http://www.last.fm/music/Coldplay/_/Talk > (click on the green triangle to the left of "Talk") > and if you don't have your copy of Kraftwerk's > Computer Love handy: > http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,116410,00.html > (but listen to the Windows Media clip cos the RealPlayer clip uses a > different part of the song). > My wife (knows Kraftwerk, not Coldplay) just heard me play the > comparison and she said "Kraftwerk should sue". I hope Kraftwerk > get tons of royalties from this. > Andrew > > > -- > Andrew Duke > scoring/sound design/source > http://andrew-duke.com > Cognition Audioworks label > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006 > >

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songs about relationships with computers > songs about relationships with girls On 2/12/06, Rob <component@mindstorm.com> wrote:

quoted 65 lines Coldplay actually credit Kraftwerk in the liner notes for this.

> > Coldplay actually credit Kraftwerk in the liner notes for this. > > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks" > <andrewduke@cognitionaudioworks.com> > To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:23 PM > Subject: [idm] Kraftwerk vs Coldplay > > > > Just heard that the rumors are true: > > Coldplay's "Talk" (their new single) > > nicks the riff from Kraftwerk's "Computer > > Love" (apparently done legally): > > > > I hadn't heard the Coldplay track that uses the Kraftwerk riff till this > > thread > > came up on the 313 list (had only heard rumors). > > If anyone wants to compare: > > http://www.last.fm/music/Coldplay/_/Talk > > (click on the green triangle to the left of "Talk") > > and if you don't have your copy of Kraftwerk's > > Computer Love handy: > > http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,116410,00.html > > (but listen to the Windows Media clip cos the RealPlayer clip uses a > > different part of the song). > > My wife (knows Kraftwerk, not Coldplay) just heard me play the > > comparison and she said "Kraftwerk should sue". I hope Kraftwerk > > get tons of royalties from this. > > Andrew > > > > > > -- > > Andrew Duke > > scoring/sound design/source > > http://andrew-duke.com > > Cognition Audioworks label > > [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] > > http://cognitionaudioworks.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: > 2/10/2006 > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

Rob wrote:

quoted 1 line Coldplay actually credit Kraftwerk in the liner notes for this.

> Coldplay actually credit Kraftwerk in the liner notes for this.

Good to hear. Is it as an "interpolation" or how exactly? Andrew

quoted 59 lines Rob

> > > > Rob > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks" > <andrewduke@cognitionaudioworks.com> > To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:23 PM > Subject: [idm] Kraftwerk vs Coldplay > > >> Just heard that the rumors are true: >> Coldplay's "Talk" (their new single) >> nicks the riff from Kraftwerk's "Computer >> Love" (apparently done legally): >> >> I hadn't heard the Coldplay track that uses the Kraftwerk riff till >> this thread >> came up on the 313 list (had only heard rumors). >> If anyone wants to compare: >> http://www.last.fm/music/Coldplay/_/Talk >> (click on the green triangle to the left of "Talk") >> and if you don't have your copy of Kraftwerk's >> Computer Love handy: >> http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,116410,00.html >> (but listen to the Windows Media clip cos the RealPlayer clip uses a >> different part of the song). >> My wife (knows Kraftwerk, not Coldplay) just heard me play the >> comparison and she said "Kraftwerk should sue". I hope Kraftwerk >> get tons of royalties from this. >> Andrew >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Duke >> scoring/sound design/source >> http://andrew-duke.com >> Cognition Audioworks label >> [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] >> http://cognitionaudioworks.com >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: >> 2/10/2006 >> >> > > >

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I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in Talk like an homage, I read in NME I think, that the vocalist shows the song to Ralf, and Ralf liked a lot the homage for Kraftwerk. And Brian Eno makes all the keyboards of this Coldplay's cd, when the band was recording, Brian came in the studio, hear and like the band and ask if he could do some tunes, and of course they aprove it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yeah, Brian has never properly Come Out about his embarrassing 'habit' (and we see from this that he hasn't kicked it yet)... shooting up stadium-inclined rock with chiming high-end guitars and soaring vocals (cf. U2, James...). He clearly requires 'help'... alan --On 13 February 2006 00:31 -0300 Victor Pardinho <crusherclayman@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in Talk

> I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in Talk > like an homage, I read in NME I think, that the vocalist shows the song > to Ralf, and Ralf liked a lot the homage for Kraftwerk. > And Brian Eno makes all the keyboards of this Coldplay's cd, when the > band was recording, Brian came in the studio, hear and like the band and > ask if he could do some tunes, and of course they aprove it. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Victor Pardinho wrote:

quoted 6 lines I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in

> I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in > Talk like an homage, I read in NME I think, that the vocalist shows > the song to Ralf, and Ralf liked a lot the homage for Kraftwerk. > And Brian Eno makes all the keyboards of this Coldplay's cd, when the > band was recording, Brian came in the studio, hear and like the band > and ask if he could do some tunes, and of course they aprove it.

Here's an interesting mashup of the two: http://www.partyben123.com/PartyBen-ComputerTalk.mp3 Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Excellent stuff Andrew.... I quite like both bands so this says it all really. -matt -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks [mailto:andrewduke@cognitionaudioworks.com] Sent: Mon 2/13/2006 3:41 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Cc: Subject: Re: [idm] Kraftwerk vs Coldplay Victor Pardinho wrote:

quoted 6 lines I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in

> I don't like Coldplay but I know that they use the Kraftwerk riff in > Talk like an homage, I read in NME I think, that the vocalist shows > the song to Ralf, and Ralf liked a lot the homage for Kraftwerk. > And Brian Eno makes all the keyboards of this Coldplay's cd, when the > band was recording, Brian came in the studio, hear and like the band > and ask if he could do some tunes, and of course they aprove it.

Here's an interesting mashup of the two: http://www.partyben123.com/PartyBen-ComputerTalk.mp3 Andrew -- Andrew Duke scoring/sound design/source http://andrew-duke.com Cognition Audioworks label [Andrew Duke, Foal, Clinker, Granny'Ark] http://cognitionaudioworks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org