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2022-02-21 05:57Rjyan Kidwelldear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the Mitek records styl

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
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Date:: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:57:28 -0500
Subject:: swedish style

dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the Mitek records style?? This might just be a distinction I've developed in my own head, but I've long had a separate little zone roped off for a "Mitek style" that is particularly exemplified by Mikael Stavostrand's Lite and the first Claudia Bonarelli album (neither of which are on Bandcamp!! soulseek em rn if you're not familiar). Looser than early SND, less austere/robotic than classic Raster-Noton, less housey/funky than early Jelinek, but more rhythmically-oriented than classic 12k/Line. Less aggressive than Mika Vainio and less melodic than Dan Abrams. The defining features would maybe be a conspicuous sparseness and itsy bitsy microscopic percussion sounds that somehow feel a tick more "organic" than most of the Glitch/Clicks n Cuts/Whathaveyou that came from more southerly parts of Europe. Other than Mitek's catalogue, the only other thing I've really found that orbit this same vibe are the two El Fog <https://flau.bandcamp.com/album/reverberate-slowly> records by Masayoshi Fujita. Stavostrand seemed to move into less delicate tech-house territory after his (very excellent and quite Miteky) record for Force Inc. Bonarelli has a new record that is very good but stylistically quite far from "Everything Happens." All this is to say: point me towards more tunes that have "beats," but beats made of audaciously tiny components. yf, rk

2022-02-21 19:14Chris TaylorDunno about new stuff tbh But what about Gramm - Personal Rock The Alva Noto / Sakamoto re

From:: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>
To:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:14:07 -0800
Subject:: Re: swedish style
Reply to:: swedish style

Dunno about new stuff tbh But what about Gramm - Personal Rock The Alva Noto / Sakamoto records probably too house-y but Rhythm Maker and the Background records catalog might have some outliers that don't pin everything down with a big kick this has Real Instruments but sort of fits the sparse, laid back and pointillistic thing: https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/superconnection-la-mer-cd/MINIMAL.023CD.html but yeah I know what you mean - like Dry Warm Soft Glitch will have to look into Mitek. Stavostrand I've never connected with despite making the exact sort of music I like playing (dubby tech house w/digital palette) alot of the Motion Ward/West Mineral producers seem to like the ambient side of clicky idm but from i've heard are really cranking the verb and delay On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:57 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 30 lines dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the

> dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the > Mitek records style?? > > This might just be a distinction I've developed in my own head, but I've > long had a separate little zone roped off for a "Mitek style" that is > particularly exemplified by Mikael Stavostrand's Lite and the first Claudia > Bonarelli album (neither of which are on Bandcamp!! soulseek em rn if > you're not familiar). > Looser than early SND, less austere/robotic than classic Raster-Noton, > less housey/funky than early Jelinek, but more rhythmically-oriented than > classic 12k/Line. Less aggressive than Mika Vainio and less melodic than > Dan Abrams. The defining features would maybe be a conspicuous sparseness > and itsy bitsy microscopic percussion sounds that somehow feel a tick more > "organic" than most of the Glitch/Clicks n Cuts/Whathaveyou that came from > more southerly parts of Europe. > > Other than Mitek's catalogue, the only other thing I've really found that > orbit this same vibe are the two El Fog > <https://flau.bandcamp.com/album/reverberate-slowly> records by Masayoshi > Fujita. Stavostrand seemed to move into less delicate tech-house territory > after his (very excellent and quite Miteky) record for Force Inc. Bonarelli > has a new record that is very good but stylistically quite far from > "Everything Happens." > > All this is to say: point me towards more tunes that have "beats," but > beats made of audaciously tiny components. > > yf, > rk >

2022-02-21 22:17Rjyan KidwellI will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my first time hearing about

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
To:: Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:17:06 -0500
Subject:: Re: swedish style
Reply to:: Re: swedish style

I will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my first time hearing about them.. Gramm is a great record. Lately somehow I think my most favorite Jelinek albums have been the ones made by Tilman Ehrhorn. (Maybe it's a symptom of long covid? Similarly finding that my favorite Vladislav records are the ones made by Joel Tammik...) Absolutely seek Stavostrand's albums "Lite" & "Reduce". Up there with Makesnd Cassette & Pole 2 imo for instances of truly sublime restraint. On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 2:14 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 52 lines Dunno about new stuff tbh

> Dunno about new stuff tbh > But what about Gramm - Personal Rock > The Alva Noto / Sakamoto records > probably too house-y but Rhythm Maker and the Background records catalog > might have some outliers that don't pin everything down with a big kick > this has Real Instruments but sort of fits the sparse, laid back and > pointillistic thing: > https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/superconnection-la-mer-cd/MINIMAL.023CD.html > > but yeah I know what you mean - like Dry Warm Soft Glitch > > will have to look into Mitek. Stavostrand I've never connected with > despite making the exact sort of music I like playing (dubby tech house > w/digital palette) > > alot of the Motion Ward/West Mineral producers seem to like the ambient > side of clicky idm but from i've heard are really cranking the verb and > delay > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:57 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the >> Mitek records style?? >> >> This might just be a distinction I've developed in my own head, but I've >> long had a separate little zone roped off for a "Mitek style" that is >> particularly exemplified by Mikael Stavostrand's Lite and the first Claudia >> Bonarelli album (neither of which are on Bandcamp!! soulseek em rn if >> you're not familiar). >> Looser than early SND, less austere/robotic than classic Raster-Noton, >> less housey/funky than early Jelinek, but more rhythmically-oriented than >> classic 12k/Line. Less aggressive than Mika Vainio and less melodic than >> Dan Abrams. The defining features would maybe be a conspicuous sparseness >> and itsy bitsy microscopic percussion sounds that somehow feel a tick more >> "organic" than most of the Glitch/Clicks n Cuts/Whathaveyou that came from >> more southerly parts of Europe. >> >> Other than Mitek's catalogue, the only other thing I've really found that >> orbit this same vibe are the two El Fog >> <https://flau.bandcamp.com/album/reverberate-slowly> records by >> Masayoshi Fujita. Stavostrand seemed to move into less delicate tech-house >> territory after his (very excellent and quite Miteky) record for Force Inc. >> Bonarelli has a new record that is very good but stylistically quite far >> from "Everything Happens." >> >> All this is to say: point me towards more tunes that have "beats," but >> beats made of audaciously tiny components. >> >> yf, >> rk >> >

2022-02-22 03:11lempamolol i have def had that happen to me before, mixing up albums and artists... on the topic

From:: lempamo <lempamo@outlook.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 22:11:53 -0500
Subject:: Re: swedish style
Reply to:: Re: swedish style

lol i have def had that happen to me before, mixing up albums and artists... on the topic of mitek-style, johan skugge also had an album on source that fits the bill: "objects and buildings" (arguably moreso than his "volume" lp on mitek) andreas tilliander's "ljud" is a like more organic take on his prior "cliphop" outing on raster honestly tho? this is making me more want to setup a lil program to group tracks in my music library by similarity (thinking similar to that XO drum vst that came out some time ago) i'd wager that would def help me narrow down some better recs in that specific vein On 2/21/2022 5:17 PM, Rjyan Kidwell wrote:

quoted 70 lines I will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my

> I will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my > first time hearing about them.. > > Gramm is a great record. Lately somehow I think my most favorite > Jelinek albums have been the ones made by Tilman Ehrhorn. (Maybe it's > a symptom of long covid? Similarly finding that my favorite Vladislav > records are the ones made by Joel Tammik...) > > Absolutely seek Stavostrand's albums "Lite" & "Reduce". Up there with > Makesnd Cassette & Pole 2 imo for instances of truly sublime restraint. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 2:14 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Dunno about new stuff tbh > But what about Gramm - Personal Rock > The Alva Noto / Sakamoto records > probably too house-y but Rhythm Maker and the Background records > catalog might have some outliers that don't pin everything down > with a big kick > this has Real Instruments but sort of fits the sparse, laid back > and pointillistic thing: > https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/superconnection-la-mer-cd/MINIMAL.023CD.html > > but yeah I know what you mean - like Dry Warm Soft Glitch > > will have to look into Mitek. Stavostrand I've never connected > with despite making the exact sort of music I like playing (dubby > tech house w/digital palette) > > alot of the Motion Ward/West Mineral producers seem to like the > ambient side of clicky idm but from i've heard are really cranking > the verb and delay > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:57 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> > wrote: > > dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the > torch for the Mitek records style?? > > This might just be a distinction I've developed in my own > head, but I've long had a separate little zone roped off for a > "Mitek style" that is particularly exemplified by Mikael > Stavostrand's Lite and the first Claudia Bonarelli album > (neither of which are on Bandcamp!! soulseek em rn if you're > not familiar). > Looser than early SND, less austere/robotic than classic > Raster-Noton, less housey/funky than early Jelinek, but more > rhythmically-oriented than classic 12k/Line. Less aggressive > than Mika Vainio and less melodic than Dan Abrams. The > defining features would maybe be a conspicuous sparseness and > itsy bitsy microscopic percussion sounds that somehow feel a > tick more "organic" than most of the Glitch/Clicks n > Cuts/Whathaveyou that came from more southerly parts of Europe. > > Other than Mitek's catalogue, the only other thing I've really > found that orbit this same vibe are the two El Fog > <https://flau.bandcamp.com/album/reverberate-slowly> records > by Masayoshi Fujita. Stavostrand seemed to move into less > delicate tech-house territory after his (very excellent and > quite Miteky) record for Force Inc. Bonarelli has a new record > that is very good but stylistically quite far from "Everything > Happens." > > All this is to say: point me towards more tunes that have > "beats," but beats made of audaciously tiny components. > > yf, > rk >

-- |>- lempamo -<| lempamo.glitch.me lempamo.bandcamp.com lemonyrecords.bandcamp.com

2022-02-22 03:38Ransom SchaferAs someone who has the Andreas Berthling Mitek release and El Fog's Reverberate Slowly, I'

From:: Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com>
To:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
Cc:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:38:36 -0800
Subject:: Re: swedish style
Reply to:: Re: swedish style

As someone who has the Andreas Berthling Mitek release and El Fog's Reverberate Slowly, I'm just going to start shooting from the hip on some stuff to check out. I find Tilman Ehrhorn a little too clinical.. I'm going for similar sound here. Michaux - %20, Audio.nl 2003 (Jimmy Edgar) https://www.discogs.com/release/191746-Michaux-20 Rechord- Skokoll, Audio.nl 2002 (Andreas Tilliander) https://www.discogs.com/master/433696-Rechord-Skokoll Tennis- Furlines, BiP_HOp 2003 https://www.discogs.com/release/111528-Tennis-Furlines Danieto-Cirugia Casual, U-Cover 2005 (Definitely check this) https://www.discogs.com/release/406168-Danieto-Cirug%C3%ADa-Casual Offthesky And Darren McClure- Suspended, Symbolic Interaction 2009 https://noise.offthesky.com/album/suspended Hanno Leichtmann- Minimal Studies, Mikroton 2013 https://hannoleichtmannmusic.bandcamp.com/album/hanno-leichtmann-minimal-studies Morgan Packard- Moment Again Elsewhere, Anticipate Recordings 2010 https://www.discogs.com/master/358603-Morgan-Packard-Moment-Again-Elsewhere Ran Slavin- Product 02, Cronica 2004 (Awesome album!) https://www.discogs.com/release/296023-Ran-Slavin-Product-02 Octex- Mindrift, Self released bandcamp 2022 (Awaiting the sixth and final track still, abstract experimental dubtech) https://octex.bandcamp.com/album/mindrifft <https://www.discogs.com/label/568-BiP_HOp> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 2:17 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 66 lines I will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my first

> I will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my first > time hearing about them.. > > Gramm is a great record. Lately somehow I think my most favorite Jelinek > albums have been the ones made by Tilman Ehrhorn. (Maybe it's a symptom of > long covid? Similarly finding that my favorite Vladislav records are the > ones made by Joel Tammik...) > > Absolutely seek Stavostrand's albums "Lite" & "Reduce". Up there with > Makesnd Cassette & Pole 2 imo for instances of truly sublime restraint. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 2:14 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dunno about new stuff tbh >> But what about Gramm - Personal Rock >> The Alva Noto / Sakamoto records >> probably too house-y but Rhythm Maker and the Background records catalog >> might have some outliers that don't pin everything down with a big kick >> this has Real Instruments but sort of fits the sparse, laid back and >> pointillistic thing: >> https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/superconnection-la-mer-cd/MINIMAL.023CD.html >> >> but yeah I know what you mean - like Dry Warm Soft Glitch >> >> will have to look into Mitek. Stavostrand I've never connected with >> despite making the exact sort of music I like playing (dubby tech house >> w/digital palette) >> >> alot of the Motion Ward/West Mineral producers seem to like the ambient >> side of clicky idm but from i've heard are really cranking the verb and >> delay >> >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:57 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the >>> Mitek records style?? >>> >>> This might just be a distinction I've developed in my own head, but I've >>> long had a separate little zone roped off for a "Mitek style" that is >>> particularly exemplified by Mikael Stavostrand's Lite and the first Claudia >>> Bonarelli album (neither of which are on Bandcamp!! soulseek em rn if >>> you're not familiar). >>> Looser than early SND, less austere/robotic than classic Raster-Noton, >>> less housey/funky than early Jelinek, but more rhythmically-oriented than >>> classic 12k/Line. Less aggressive than Mika Vainio and less melodic than >>> Dan Abrams. The defining features would maybe be a conspicuous sparseness >>> and itsy bitsy microscopic percussion sounds that somehow feel a tick more >>> "organic" than most of the Glitch/Clicks n Cuts/Whathaveyou that came from >>> more southerly parts of Europe. >>> >>> Other than Mitek's catalogue, the only other thing I've really found >>> that orbit this same vibe are the two El Fog >>> <https://flau.bandcamp.com/album/reverberate-slowly> records by >>> Masayoshi Fujita. Stavostrand seemed to move into less delicate tech-house >>> territory after his (very excellent and quite Miteky) record for Force Inc. >>> Bonarelli has a new record that is very good but stylistically quite far >>> from "Everything Happens." >>> >>> All this is to say: point me towards more tunes that have "beats," but >>> beats made of audaciously tiny components. >>> >>> yf, >>> rk >>> >>

2022-02-22 17:51Rjyan Kidwelloh hell yes On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:38 PM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wro

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
To:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:51:35 -0500
Subject:: Re: swedish style
Reply to:: Re: swedish style

oh hell yes On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 10:38 PM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 105 lines As someone who has the Andreas Berthling Mitek release and El Fog's

> As someone who has the Andreas Berthling Mitek release and El Fog's > Reverberate Slowly, I'm just going to start shooting from the hip on some > stuff to check out. I find Tilman Ehrhorn a little too clinical.. I'm going > for similar sound here. > > Michaux - %20, Audio.nl 2003 (Jimmy Edgar) > https://www.discogs.com/release/191746-Michaux-20 > > Rechord- Skokoll, Audio.nl 2002 (Andreas Tilliander) > https://www.discogs.com/master/433696-Rechord-Skokoll > > Tennis- Furlines, BiP_HOp 2003 > https://www.discogs.com/release/111528-Tennis-Furlines > > Danieto-Cirugia Casual, U-Cover 2005 (Definitely check this) > https://www.discogs.com/release/406168-Danieto-Cirug%C3%ADa-Casual > > Offthesky And Darren McClure- Suspended, Symbolic Interaction 2009 > https://noise.offthesky.com/album/suspended > > Hanno Leichtmann- Minimal Studies, Mikroton 2013 > > https://hannoleichtmannmusic.bandcamp.com/album/hanno-leichtmann-minimal-studies > > Morgan Packard- Moment Again Elsewhere, Anticipate Recordings 2010 > https://www.discogs.com/master/358603-Morgan-Packard-Moment-Again-Elsewhere > > Ran Slavin- Product 02, Cronica 2004 (Awesome album!) > https://www.discogs.com/release/296023-Ran-Slavin-Product-02 > > Octex- Mindrift, Self released bandcamp 2022 (Awaiting the sixth and final > track still, abstract experimental dubtech) > https://octex.bandcamp.com/album/mindrifft > > <https://www.discogs.com/label/568-BiP_HOp> > > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 2:17 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I will def have to check out Motion ward West mineral, this is my first >> time hearing about them.. >> >> Gramm is a great record. Lately somehow I think my most favorite Jelinek >> albums have been the ones made by Tilman Ehrhorn. (Maybe it's a symptom of >> long covid? Similarly finding that my favorite Vladislav records are the >> ones made by Joel Tammik...) >> >> Absolutely seek Stavostrand's albums "Lite" & "Reduce". Up there with >> Makesnd Cassette & Pole 2 imo for instances of truly sublime restraint. >> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 2:14 PM Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dunno about new stuff tbh >>> But what about Gramm - Personal Rock >>> The Alva Noto / Sakamoto records >>> probably too house-y but Rhythm Maker and the Background records catalog >>> might have some outliers that don't pin everything down with a big kick >>> this has Real Instruments but sort of fits the sparse, laid back and >>> pointillistic thing: >>> https://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/superconnection-la-mer-cd/MINIMAL.023CD.html >>> >>> but yeah I know what you mean - like Dry Warm Soft Glitch >>> >>> will have to look into Mitek. Stavostrand I've never connected with >>> despite making the exact sort of music I like playing (dubby tech house >>> w/digital palette) >>> >>> alot of the Motion Ward/West Mineral producers seem to like the ambient >>> side of clicky idm but from i've heard are really cranking the verb and >>> delay >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 9:57 PM Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> dear idm-l brain trust, is anybody currently carrying the torch for the >>>> Mitek records style?? >>>> >>>> This might just be a distinction I've developed in my own head, but >>>> I've long had a separate little zone roped off for a "Mitek style" that is >>>> particularly exemplified by Mikael Stavostrand's Lite and the first Claudia >>>> Bonarelli album (neither of which are on Bandcamp!! soulseek em rn if >>>> you're not familiar). >>>> Looser than early SND, less austere/robotic than classic Raster-Noton, >>>> less housey/funky than early Jelinek, but more rhythmically-oriented than >>>> classic 12k/Line. Less aggressive than Mika Vainio and less melodic than >>>> Dan Abrams. The defining features would maybe be a conspicuous sparseness >>>> and itsy bitsy microscopic percussion sounds that somehow feel a tick more >>>> "organic" than most of the Glitch/Clicks n Cuts/Whathaveyou that came from >>>> more southerly parts of Europe. >>>> >>>> Other than Mitek's catalogue, the only other thing I've really found >>>> that orbit this same vibe are the two El Fog >>>> <https://flau.bandcamp.com/album/reverberate-slowly> records by >>>> Masayoshi Fujita. Stavostrand seemed to move into less delicate tech-house >>>> territory after his (very excellent and quite Miteky) record for Force Inc. >>>> Bonarelli has a new record that is very good but stylistically quite far >>>> from "Everything Happens." >>>> >>>> All this is to say: point me towards more tunes that have "beats," but >>>> beats made of audaciously tiny components. >>>> >>>> yf, >>>> rk >>>> >>>

2022-02-24 21:34Rjyan KidwellTshirts?? With these shipping prices?? Prob time to talk about a new Endlessnessism-style

From:: Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com>
To:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 16:34:21 -0500
Subject:: Re: swedish style

Tshirts?? With these shipping prices?? Prob time to talk about a new Endlessnessism-style idm-l comp tho Also I can't tell what's more infuriating, that I never heard Morgan Packard before or that there hasn't been any new Morgan Packard records in ten years

swedish style