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2004-03-01 20:09[idm] How do people like Prefuse73 play live?
2004-03-01 20:27Greg Baker Re: [idm] How do people like Prefuse73 play live?
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└─ 2004-03-02 06:06Alan R. Lucas [idm] Apropa't (was Re: [idm] Prefuse73 live?)
2004-03-02 08:03Saltim Bocca Re: [idm] How do people like Prefuse73 play live?
└─ 2004-03-02 20:04Luis M. Perez-Bailon Re: [idm] How do people like Prefuse73 play live? DAbrye
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2004-03-01 20:09saltimbocca@gmx.deHave any of you seen Prefuse live? How does he actually do his stuff - I've seen an MPC on
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Have any of you seen Prefuse live? How does he actually do his stuff - I've seen an MPC on a pic, but does anyone have more info? His Vocal Studies is just wicked.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-01 20:27Greg Baker> Have any of you seen Prefuse live? How does he actually do his stuff - when i saw him in
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quoted 1 line Have any of you seen Prefuse live? How does he actually do his stuff -> Have any of you seen Prefuse live? How does he actually do his stuff -
when i saw him in chicago at the warp nesh thing all he had was a laptop (or at least that's all i could see) and he rocked the house. i've never seen a whole venue begin dancing the second the first sound comes out of the speakers like that. instant success. when i saw him a few months ago in SF with four tet, i seriously left a little while after four tet went off. he had a live drummer and some other mates on the stage with him, and it sounded like poo from where i was sitting. not that having a band is bad - the drummer himself actually sounded pretty good, its just that (in order of cause and effect) #1 it did not sound like a cohesive whole and #2 it didnt sound like prefuse73 and #3 i couldnt dance to it. i own uprock and 92v02, and didnt buy one word because of that show. i'd love to hear people's opinions of that album - should i give it a second chance or stick with my intuition? did he use that "band" (translation - fiasco) to make that album? greg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-01 20:53Eggy ToastGreg Baker said: > i own uprock and 92v02, and didnt buy one word because of that show. >
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quoted 4 lines i own uprock and 92v02, and didnt buy one word because of that show.> i own uprock and 92v02, and didnt buy one word because of that show. > i'd love to hear people's opinions of that album - should i give it a > second chance or stick with my intuition? did he use that "band" > (translation - fiasco) to make that album?
No. When he was in Baltimore it was for that album and he did it all on stage with his laptop, mpc, and moog voyager (and maybe another bit or two, don't remember). No drummer or any other live musician, outside of a DJ that no one could hear (maybe he was doing some of the in-between-song stuff? don't know). anyway, the album is pretty solid, and there are some memorable tracks. There's not such as great a fusion of rap and his own stuff as there was on uprock, but I feel the album is a bit more cohesive -- I'll usually listen to it all the way through, instead of skipping around and only hearing half of uprock. -- eggytoast.com : eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-01 23:04saltimbocca@gmx.deAm 01.03.2004 um 21:24 schrieb Eggy Toast: >> > > Yeah. it's pretty good, actually, for an
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Am 01.03.2004 um 21:24 schrieb Eggy Toast:
quoted 17 lines Yeah. it's pretty good, actually, for an electronic show. The basic>> > > Yeah. it's pretty good, actually, for an electronic show. The basic > tracks are played back off an ibook or something, he'll usually have a > synth or two onstage (he had a new moog voyager on stage when I saw > him), > and his mpc. He'll be busy adding stuff with the mpc or twisting > knobs on > a synth to make noise. when i saw him there was a dj too but i could > never hear what he was doing, so who knows. > > but it's about, maybe, 60/40 played back/off the cuff, so you'll hear > songs off the albums done with new stuff and in new ways, which is > pretty > spiffy. > >
it's great when you hear the artist actually twist the tracks a bit, isn't it. I hear he's touring Savath this year and that should be interesting as it's going to be a whole band then. What I love most about his stuff besides the glitchy beats is the jazzy vibes and the fact that it really lends itself to improvisation (that's the feeling I get listening to it) Cheers, roland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-01 23:48EggyToastAt 05:07 PM 3/1/2004, you wrote: > > When he was in Baltimore it was for that album and he
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At 05:07 PM 3/1/2004, you wrote:
quoted 4 lines When he was in Baltimore it was for that album and he did it all on> > When he was in Baltimore it was for that album and he did it all on > > stage with his laptop, mpc, and moog voyager > >i'm sad i missed that. i assume he headlined? do you remember who opened?
It was a really good show. He headlined and Beans opened for him. I think it actually worked really well, because they were similar yet wholly different performances. -- eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-02 03:59Patrick MatteI love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3 times... But I think
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I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3 times... But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one big boring one-hour song. The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand out, they all sound the same... really really bad and depressing stuff... Cant wait till the next prefuse release... Oh yeah and about the shows, the first time i saw prefuse with the live band, i think it sucked, the drummer ruined everything and the turntablist sucked.... the first act Manitoba totally stoled the show...People were leaving in the middle of the prefuse set... The second time i saw Scott with his band, i think it worked well. They had a better chemistry than on the first tour. They really rocked ! Beans opened and it was really good too. But no one really cared about Dabrye... ----- Original Message ----- From: <saltimbocca@gmx.de> To: <eggy@eggtastic.com> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [idm] How do people like Prefuse73 play live?
quoted 35 lines Am 01.03.2004 um 21:24 schrieb Eggy Toast:> > Am 01.03.2004 um 21:24 schrieb Eggy Toast: > >> > > > > Yeah. it's pretty good, actually, for an electronic show. The basic > > tracks are played back off an ibook or something, he'll usually have a > > synth or two onstage (he had a new moog voyager on stage when I saw > > him), > > and his mpc. He'll be busy adding stuff with the mpc or twisting > > knobs on > > a synth to make noise. when i saw him there was a dj too but i could > > never hear what he was doing, so who knows. > > > > but it's about, maybe, 60/40 played back/off the cuff, so you'll hear > > songs off the albums done with new stuff and in new ways, which is > > pretty > > spiffy. > > > > > > it's great when you hear the artist actually twist the tracks a bit, > isn't it. I hear he's touring Savath this year and that should be > interesting as it's going to be a whole band then. > What I love most about his stuff besides the glitchy beats is the jazzy > vibes and the fact that it really lends itself to improvisation (that's > the feeling I get listening to it) > > Cheers, > roland > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2004-03-02 04:13EggyToastAt 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote: >I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i'v
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At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote:
quoted 8 lines I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3>I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3 >times... > >But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one big boring one-hour song. >The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand out, they all sound the >same... really really bad and depressing stuff... > >Cant wait till the next prefuse release...
I can see how that could be criticism (however fairly put), but I think it's one of the strengths of Scott Herren's output. His output is varied between the various names but it's consistent within those names. Personally, I'm saddened that he's retired the Delasora and Asora stuff, as those are some of my favorite albums (backsome especially). It's nice to see that he's got a lot of variety of output, even if it's not all my cup o' tea. derek -- eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-02 05:54wownflutterI actually found myself liking it --- liking it quite a lot in fact. It is a new road he i
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I actually found myself liking it --- liking it quite a lot in fact. It is a new road he is trying out. Based on his musical inventiveness and rythmic skill -- he is allowing his art to be expressed in a new way. BTW: Wire Magazine review quote: "There is no fake authenticity in this musical exploration, and Herren's musical palette is impressively wide ranging..... Impossible to pigeonhole, on first listen "Apropra't" is almost casual in its effortless brilliance. Yet there's something really substantial at its core." --- EggyToast <eggy@eggtastic.com> wrote:
quoted 34 lines At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote:> At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote: > >I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've > seen him play live 3 > >times... > > > >But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one big > boring one-hour song. > >The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand > out, they all sound the > >same... really really bad and depressing stuff... > > > >Cant wait till the next prefuse release... > > I can see how that could be criticism (however > fairly put), but I think > it's one of the strengths of Scott Herren's output. > His output is varied > between the various names but it's consistent within > those > names. Personally, I'm saddened that he's retired > the Delasora and Asora > stuff, as those are some of my favorite albums > (backsome especially). It's > nice to see that he's got a lot of variety of > output, even if it's not all > my cup o' tea. > > derek > > -- > eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com > > >
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2004-03-02 06:06Alan R. LucasI think I might like Apropa't better if it didn't just sound so much like Stereolab with S
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I think I might like Apropa't better if it didn't just sound so much like Stereolab with Spanish lyrics. I mean, yeah, it's technically good, and very well produced, but it's just a little boring to me. Maybe I just haven't been in the right headspace when I've been listening. Driving to work with it at 7:00AM probably isn't the best environment to really appreciate it. That said, I really love Track 8, Um Girassol, etc... That one really sticks out. Very pop. Later, Alan np:Apropa't Quoting wownflutter <wownflutter@yahoo.com>:
quoted 71 lines I actually found myself liking it --- liking it quite> I actually found myself liking it --- liking it quite > a lot in fact. > > It is a new road he is trying out. Based on his > musical inventiveness and rythmic skill -- he is > allowing his art to be expressed in a new way. > > BTW: Wire Magazine review quote: > > "There is no fake authenticity in this musical > exploration, and Herren's musical palette is > impressively wide ranging..... > > Impossible to pigeonhole, on first listen "Apropra't" > is almost casual in its effortless brilliance. Yet > there's something really substantial at its core." > > > > --- EggyToast <eggy@eggtastic.com> wrote: > > At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote: > > >I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've > > seen him play live 3 > > >times... > > > > > >But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one big > > boring one-hour song. > > >The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand > > out, they all sound the > > >same... really really bad and depressing stuff... > > > > > >Cant wait till the next prefuse release... > > > > I can see how that could be criticism (however > > fairly put), but I think > > it's one of the strengths of Scott Herren's output. > > His output is varied > > between the various names but it's consistent within > > those > > names. Personally, I'm saddened that he's retired > > the Delasora and Asora > > stuff, as those are some of my favorite albums > > (backsome especially). It's > > nice to see that he's got a lot of variety of > > output, even if it's not all > > my cup o' tea. > > > > derek > > > > -- > > eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster > http://search.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2004-03-02 08:03Saltim BoccaPatrick, that's interesting - so he actually played with a band (bass/drums...)? I 've lis
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Patrick, that's interesting - so he actually played with a band (bass/drums...)? I 've listened to a couple of Dabrye tracks recently and must say I really like them. Have no idea where to get his music in Germany though. I think that Vocal Studies is by far the better Prefuse release compared with Extinguisher. Shame I only got it on Bleep and don't have the cover - I love cover artwork! Cheers, R.
quoted 66 lines I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3>I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3 > times... > > But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one big boring one-hour song. > The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand out, they all sound the > same... really really bad and depressing stuff... > > Cant wait till the next prefuse release... > > Oh yeah and about the shows, the first time i saw prefuse with the live > band, i think it sucked, the drummer ruined everything and the turntablist > sucked.... the first act Manitoba totally stoled the show...People were > leaving in the middle of the prefuse set... > > The second time i saw Scott with his band, i think it worked well. They > had > a better chemistry than on the first tour. They really rocked ! Beans > opened > and it was really good too. But no one really cared about Dabrye... > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <saltimbocca@gmx.de> > To: <eggy@eggtastic.com> > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:04 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] How do people like Prefuse73 play live? > > > > > > Am 01.03.2004 um 21:24 schrieb Eggy Toast: > > >> > > > > > > Yeah. it's pretty good, actually, for an electronic show. The basic > > > tracks are played back off an ibook or something, he'll usually have a > > > synth or two onstage (he had a new moog voyager on stage when I saw > > > him), > > > and his mpc. He'll be busy adding stuff with the mpc or twisting > > > knobs on > > > a synth to make noise. when i saw him there was a dj too but i could > > > never hear what he was doing, so who knows. > > > > > > but it's about, maybe, 60/40 played back/off the cuff, so you'll hear > > > songs off the albums done with new stuff and in new ways, which is > > > pretty > > > spiffy. > > > > > > > > > > it's great when you hear the artist actually twist the tracks a bit, > > isn't it. I hear he's touring Savath this year and that should be > > interesting as it's going to be a whole band then. > > What I love most about his stuff besides the glitchy beats is the jazzy > > vibes and the fact that it really lends itself to improvisation (that's > > the feeling I get listening to it) > > > > Cheers, > > roland > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2004-03-02 20:04Luis M. Perez-Bailondabrye is pretty much one of my faves for the last year.... check out http://www.ghostly.c
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dabrye is pretty much one of my faves for the last year.... check out http://www.ghostly.com/1.0/artists/dabrye/index.shtml for more of his stuff... dabrye is the new persona of Tadd Mullinix... check out the video Smoking the edge... my friends from Beat13 are responsible for it.... check out: www.beat13.co.uk and www.beat13gallery.co.uk for more awesome art, cg's and beats... Dabrye will be at miami for the swampthing event: www.swampthing.info... the Beat13 crew will be Vjing in this tropical paradise as well for the WMC2004 peace! Luis m. Miami, sunny florida --- Saltim Bocca <saltimbocca@gmx.de> wrote:
quoted 102 lines Patrick,> Patrick, > that's interesting - so he actually played with a > band (bass/drums...)? > I 've listened to a couple of Dabrye tracks recently > and must say I really > like them. Have no idea where to get his music in > Germany though. > > I think that Vocal Studies is by far the better > Prefuse release compared > with Extinguisher. > Shame I only got it on Bleep and don't have the > cover - I love cover > artwork! > > Cheers, > R. > >I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've > seen him play live 3 > > times... > > > > But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one > big boring one-hour song. > > The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand > out, they all sound the > > same... really really bad and depressing stuff... > > > > Cant wait till the next prefuse release... > > > > Oh yeah and about the shows, the first time i saw > prefuse with the live > > band, i think it sucked, the drummer ruined > everything and the turntablist > > sucked.... the first act Manitoba totally stoled > the show...People were > > leaving in the middle of the prefuse set... > > > > The second time i saw Scott with his band, i think > it worked well. They > > had > > a better chemistry than on the first tour. They > really rocked ! Beans > > opened > > and it was really good too. But no one really > cared about Dabrye... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <saltimbocca@gmx.de> > > To: <eggy@eggtastic.com> > > Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [idm] How do people like Prefuse73 > play live? > > > > > > > > > > Am 01.03.2004 um 21:24 schrieb Eggy Toast: > > > >> > > > > > > > > Yeah. it's pretty good, actually, for an > electronic show. The basic > > > > tracks are played back off an ibook or > something, he'll usually have a > > > > synth or two onstage (he had a new moog > voyager on stage when I saw > > > > him), > > > > and his mpc. He'll be busy adding stuff with > the mpc or twisting > > > > knobs on > > > > a synth to make noise. when i saw him there > was a dj too but i could > > > > never hear what he was doing, so who knows. > > > > > > > > but it's about, maybe, 60/40 played back/off > the cuff, so you'll hear > > > > songs off the albums done with new stuff and > in new ways, which is > > > > pretty > > > > spiffy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's great when you hear the artist actually > twist the tracks a bit, > > > isn't it. I hear he's touring Savath this year > and that should be > > > interesting as it's going to be a whole band > then. > > > What I love most about his stuff besides the > glitchy beats is the jazzy > > > vibes and the fact that it really lends itself > to improvisation (that's > > > the feeling I get listening to it) > > > > > > Cheers, > > > roland > > > > > > > > > >
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2004-03-02 08:05Saltim Bocca> At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote: > >I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and
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quoted 26 lines At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote:> At 10:59 PM 3/1/2004, Patrick Matte wrote: > >I love Prefuse73, i bought all the cds and i've seen him play live 3 > >times... > > > >But I think that Apropa't album sounds like one big boring one-hour song. > >The singing is so monotone. No tracks really stand out, they all sound > the > >same... really really bad and depressing stuff... > > > >Cant wait till the next prefuse release... > > I can see how that could be criticism (however fairly put), but I think > it's one of the strengths of Scott Herren's output. His output is varied > between the various names but it's consistent within those > names. Personally, I'm saddened that he's retired the Delasora and Asora > stuff, as those are some of my favorite albums (backsome especially). > It's > nice to see that he's got a lot of variety of output, even if it's not all > > my cup o' tea. > > derek > > -- > eggytoast.com -- eggtastic.com >
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