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interested to know if producers have used sending lots of midi/cc data to hardware gear to get unpredictable results

I don’t know how this is made, but seems like it’s a possibility - https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/an-introduction-to-extratone-the-worlds-fastest-music-genre On Apr 4, 2020, 4:15 PM -0400, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>, wrote:

quoted 1 line interested to know if producers have used sending lots of midi/cc data to hardware gear to

> interested to know if producers have used sending lots of midi/cc data to hardware gear to get unpredictable results

That's sort of what I'm talking about. Almost every time I've worked with MIDI hardware (this is usually stuff that's ~20 years old) and ableton, once I hit a certain amount of tracks and cc automation, the synth starts to choke up and (at least) the tempo gets thrown off. This is of course annoying, but I've been able to exploit it in a glitchy Oval-ian sort of way. Some synths do voicestealing, unpredictable parameter movements and tempo fluctuations - others will fully freeze and just got stuck on a note. The former can produce a nice and unpredictable result. Anyways, I've never encountered anyone talking about doing this and I dedicated my 20s to recording interviews with electronic musicians. So just curious if anyone else had encountered what I'm talking about. Surely the results aren't that different from other methods derived from VSTs or parameter automation but still - interesting stuff if you're into that sort of thing. On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:36 PM Brian Oblivion <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 15 lines My ableton setup involves a couple knobs on my controller that are mapped

> My ableton setup involves a couple knobs on my controller that are mapped > to at least 11 functions each, and every time I make an adjustment the CPU > meter jumps, and the sync hiccups. Does that count? :p > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jake Levine <jake@drunkonvinyl.com> wrote: > >> I don’t know how this is made, but seems like it’s a possibility - >> https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/an-introduction-to-extratone-the-worlds-fastest-music-genre >> On Apr 4, 2020, 4:15 PM -0400, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>, >> wrote: >> >> interested to know if producers have used sending lots of midi/cc data to >> hardware gear to get unpredictable results >> >>

great idea, going to try it, thanks!!!! On Mon, Apr 6, 2020, 08:55 Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 37 lines That's sort of what I'm talking about.

> That's sort of what I'm talking about. > > Almost every time I've worked with MIDI hardware (this is usually stuff > that's ~20 years old) and ableton, once I hit a certain amount of tracks > and cc automation, the synth starts to choke up and (at least) the tempo > gets thrown off. This is of course annoying, but I've been able to exploit > it in a glitchy Oval-ian sort of way. Some synths do voicestealing, > unpredictable parameter movements and tempo fluctuations - others will > fully freeze and just got stuck on a note. The former can produce a nice > and unpredictable result. > > Anyways, I've never encountered anyone talking about doing this and I > dedicated my 20s to recording interviews with electronic musicians. So just > curious if anyone else had encountered what I'm talking about. > > Surely the results aren't that different from other methods derived from > VSTs or parameter automation but still - interesting stuff if you're into > that sort of thing. > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:36 PM Brian Oblivion <djmanos@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My ableton setup involves a couple knobs on my controller that are mapped >> to at least 11 functions each, and every time I make an adjustment the CPU >> meter jumps, and the sync hiccups. Does that count? :p >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 10:46 AM Jake Levine <jake@drunkonvinyl.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I don’t know how this is made, but seems like it’s a possibility - >>> https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/an-introduction-to-extratone-the-worlds-fastest-music-genre >>> On Apr 4, 2020, 4:15 PM -0400, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>, >>> wrote: >>> >>> interested to know if producers have used sending lots of midi/cc data >>> to hardware gear to get unpredictable results >>> >>>

Hi, I don't think «extratone» is the point, as its purpose is to turn a tempo into audible frequencies. Basically, a standard 120 BPM won't produce a tone in itself, as it means a 0.5 Hz frequency per bar, whilst 10000 BPM will produce 42 Hz per bar. Conversely, the hardware MIDI overload is a classic «IDM» tactic, as there are only so much informations your MIDI cable will handle. Back it the days when i had very limited gear, it happened to me quite often to clog up my poor synth or sampler. I didn't experience it purposely though, so i never found it worthwhile really, although it was certainly amusing and reminiscent of the good old computer demo days, when coders would push back the amount of scrollings/bobs/rasters/etc. the computer could display ! But in practice, my MIDI overload experiences would just sound like sporadic tempo/time division changes or chopped up steps. A few times, my sampler crashed also, and when it did, it would freeze the samples cycles it was playing, like *bzzzzzz* ! On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 7:46 PM Jake Levine <jake@drunkonvinyl.com> wrote:

quoted 9 lines I don’t know how this is made, but seems like it’s a possibility -

> I don’t know how this is made, but seems like it’s a possibility - > https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/an-introduction-to-extratone-the-worlds-fastest-music-genre > On Apr 4, 2020, 4:15 PM -0400, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com>, > wrote: > > interested to know if producers have used sending lots of midi/cc data to > hardware gear to get unpredictable results > >