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to wit: http://slate.msn.com/id/2082361/ there is a lot wrong with this article, but one paragraph really gets my goat: "When weighed against his I.D.M. peers??-Ziq, Squarepusher, Autechre?James' flexibility seems almost perverse. They are known for being one-trick ponies, albeit ones with mighty cool tricks. Limited to the software on their laptops, they're not expected to be any more adaptable than a classical violinist, an inveterate punk, or a hazy prog rocker. Aphex Twin, though, has made music that could satisfy all those constituencies and more. Classical music? Check. Pop songs? Check. Ambient works? Check. Dance hits? Yup. Occasionally he's even played the roll of celebrity remixer. Hence his new record, 26 Remixes for Cash." One trick ponies? are you kidding? who the hell thinks that? squarepusher: manic drill & bass? check. free jazz workouts? check. nutty 2-step? check autechre: if you played incunabula and then draft 7.30 for the "man on the street" do you really think said man would say that they sound like the same artist? and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. what a bunch of crap. ok, rant over. dave --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

dave jakhelln said:

quoted 1 line and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used.

> and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used.

Well, you can check that alias off the list from now on. derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

To me, the problem with Bemis' review isn't that he pigeonholes IDM artists (because this list implicitly does that every day), it's that he tries to make James out to be the reluctant crossover superstar--itself a one-trick pony in the world of pop music criticism. That and minor historical inaccuracies aside, the review panders about as well as it can to its intended audience. Heath dave jakhelln wrote:

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> to wit: http://slate.msn.com/id/2082361/ there is a lot wrong with this article, but one paragraph really gets my goat: > "When weighed against his I.D.M. peers—µ-Ziq, Squarepusher, Autechre—James' flexibility seems almost perverse. They are known for being one-trick ponies, albeit ones with mighty cool tricks. Limited to the software on their laptops, they're not expected to be any more adaptable than a classical violinist, an inveterate punk, or a hazy prog rocker. Aphex Twin, though, has made music that could satisfy all those constituencies and more. Classical music? Check. Pop songs? Check. Ambient works? Check. Dance hits? Yup. Occasionally he's even played the roll of celebrity remixer. Hence his new record, 26 Remixes for Cash." > > One trick ponies? are you kidding? who the hell thinks that? > > squarepusher: manic drill & bass? check. free jazz workouts? check. nutty 2-step? check > > autechre: if you played incunabula and then draft 7.30 for the "man on the street" do you really think said man would say that they sound like the same artist? > > and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. > > what a bunch of crap. > > ok, rant over. > > dave > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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just to make sure...... it was pronounced music(mu-ziq), right?. i think itd much cooler to be u-ziq (you-zeek). oh well who am i to judge. i go by distik(:grabs dick: i said dis dick muthafuka dont you understand english). d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines just to make sure...... it was pronounced music(mu-ziq), right?. i

> just to make sure...... it was pronounced music(mu-ziq), right?. i > think itd much cooler to be u-ziq (you-zeek).

Yeah, he admits that it was a silly name anyway, and I think you can tell he's been only using it repeatedly due to the history behind it (as there's likely already tabs in some music shops for "mu-ziq" vs. say "rude ass tinker." But, oh well. As with most electronic music, the names of the artists and tracks usually are a bit less important than the music itself, so it's not like we're losing mike's music; just the well-known name. oh well who am i to

quoted 2 lines judge. i go by distik(:grabs dick: i said dis dick muthafuka dont you

> judge. i go by distik(:grabs dick: i said dis dick muthafuka dont you > understand english). d

Hey, there's no accounting for taste. I don't even like eggs. ;D derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 2 lines just to make sure...... it was pronounced music(mu-ziq), right?. i

> > just to make sure...... it was pronounced music(mu-ziq), right?. i > > think itd much cooler to be u-ziq (you-zeek).

Not at all - as a Greek major in one of my undergraduate lives, I thought it was pretty clever...even if most people don't have the correct font for the "mu" on their comptuers. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

dave jakhelln said:

quoted 5 lines and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used.

>> and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. > >Well, you can check that alias off the list from now on. > >derek

Are you serious??? The article says... "in the mid-'90s The I.D.M. audience must have seemed like a constituency worth courting, rather than a bunch of smartass obscurantists." Good job proving them right. I'd probably be bitter too though if I were a failed producer working for 'eggtastic' ... Moron. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hey dumbass, I believe he's referring to mu-ziq's recent announcement that he is going to stop using 'mu-ziq' as a name because people are pirating his albums before they're released. --- "Decker, Joshua" <Joshua.Decker@FMR.COM> wrote:

quoted 21 lines dave jakhelln said:

> dave jakhelln said: > > >> and i can't even keep track of how many alias's > u-ziq has used. > > > >Well, you can check that alias off the list from > now on. > > > >derek > > Are you serious??? The article says... "in the > mid-'90s The I.D.M. audience > must have seemed like a constituency worth courting, > rather than a bunch of > smartass obscurantists." > > Good job proving them right. I'd probably be bitter > too though if I were a > failed producer working for 'eggtastic' ... Moron. > >

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Decker, Joshua said:

quoted 10 lines dave jakhelln said:

> dave jakhelln said: > >>> and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. >> >>Well, you can check that alias off the list from now on. >> >>derek > > Are you serious??? The article says... "in the mid-'90s The I.D.M. > audience must have seemed like a constituency worth courting,

rather

quoted 4 lines than a bunch of smartass obscurantists."

> than a bunch of smartass obscurantists." > > Good job proving them right. I'd probably be bitter too though if I > were a failed producer working for 'eggtastic' ... Moron.

Do you read the list? A week ago, it was posted that the front page news section of http://www.planet-mu.com/ that, thanks to idiot soulseekers who have already traded his not-yet-released next-album, that he'll be retiring the name. Gah. What the hell were you thinking I was talking about? -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

chill, eggy refers to the fact that mike paradinas isnt going to use the u-ziq alias anymore. Decker, Joshua wrote:

quoted 25 lines dave jakhelln said:

>dave jakhelln said: > > > >>>and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. >>> >>> >>Well, you can check that alias off the list from now on. >> >>derek >> >> > >Are you serious??? The article says... "in the mid-'90s The I.D.M. audience >must have seemed like a constituency worth courting, rather than a bunch of >smartass obscurantists." > >Good job proving them right. I'd probably be bitter too though if I were a >failed producer working for 'eggtastic' ... Moron. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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wait a second here. eggy is one of the most respectful posters to this list i must say. clearly, he was referring to the fact that the u-ziq moniker will no longer be used by m paradinas because the new "bilious paths" album has already appeared on soulseek, despite his warning that such an action would constitute the end of u-ziq. i personally took no offense to the comment. however, i think mr. toast is pretty much the resident aphex expert on idm-l, so i'd be curious as to his opinions on the original article itself. dave "Decker, Joshua" <Joshua.Decker@FMR.COM> wrote:dave jakhelln said:

quoted 5 lines and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used.

>> and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. > >Well, you can check that alias off the list from now on. > >derek

Are you serious??? The article says... "in the mid-'90s The I.D.M. audience must have seemed like a constituency worth courting, rather than a bunch of smartass obscurantists." Good job proving them right. I'd probably be bitter too though if I were a failed producer working for 'eggtastic' ... Moron. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

On Tue, 6 May 2003 13:49:22 -0700 (PDT) dave jakhelln <reverberat0r@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines wait a second here. eggy is one of the most respectful

>wait a second here. eggy is one of the most respectful >posters to this list i must say. clearly, he was

Most frequent posters, maybe... --- Household Names - one reason why tax day this year won't suck. New EP - "Hold On Tight!" April 15th from Sonic Therapy. http://www.sonictherapy.net http://www.householdnames.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

My apologies.. I thought eggy was being a jackass. If you live near san fran, you can personally come kick my ass. -----Original Message----- From: Decker, Joshua Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:38 PM To: 'eggy@eggtastic.com'; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] the mainstream press still doesn't know jack about IDM dave jakhelln said:

quoted 5 lines and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used.

>> and i can't even keep track of how many alias's u-ziq has used. > >Well, you can check that alias off the list from now on. > >derek

Are you serious??? The article says... "in the mid-'90s The I.D.M. audience must have seemed like a constituency worth courting, rather than a bunch of smartass obscurantists." Good job proving them right. I'd probably be bitter too though if I were a failed producer working for 'eggtastic' ... Moron. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org