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2000-05-11 20:51Josh Davison [idm] what makes a good record good
2000-05-11 21:25aaron [idm] on the Ae thing
├─ 2000-05-11 22:23Josh Davison Re: [idm] song titles
└─ 2000-05-12 03:48Eyal Dechter RE: [idm] on the Ae thing
2000-05-11 22:31Rjyan Kidwell Re: [idm] song titles
└─ 2000-05-11 22:40Josh Davison Re: [idm] song titles
2000-05-11 22:32Re: [idm] song titles
2000-05-11 22:33Simon Paul Re: [idm] song titles
2000-05-12 02:13Noah Re: [idm] song titles
└─ 2000-05-12 06:35Jeff Shoemaker Re: [idm] song titles
2003-01-26 00:31Martin Lomas [idm] Song Titles
└─ 2003-01-26 01:36ben gill Re: [idm] Song Titles
└─ 2003-01-26 03:30brian fink Re: [idm] Song Titles
2003-01-26 03:34cutups Re: [idm] Song Titles
└─ 2003-01-26 06:42Brandon Smith Re: [idm] Song Titles
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2000-05-11 20:51Josh Davisonsomebody mentioned "i care because you do" in a post yesterday and it made me decide to go
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somebody mentioned "i care because you do" in a post yesterday and it made me decide to go back for my bi-annual listen to that record ... i think it might be my vote for the most solid electronic record of the 1990's. but without turning this into a Spin/VH1 style artist-cock suck-fest let me explain what i think makes this record so so strong. since the material spans such a great amount of time (4 years by the dates on the back) there is such a wide variety of sounds and styles represented that it's hard to digest it all in one, two, three, probably even fifty sittings. so it gives you something to come back to. i notice something different every time i listen to it. like how there's this really nice melody hidden behind that squeal and chaos that runs all through 'ventolin'. or the macintalk computer voices buried in the mix on 'cow cud is a twin'. anyway, more albums should be as faceted and layered as this one is. josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-11 21:25aaronon the same Ae cloning thing.. certainly many people may model after or be severly influen
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on the same Ae cloning thing.. certainly many people may model after or be severly influenced by Ae's music.. but does that really mean they need to model thier song naming scheme after it? why is it that most new IDM artists need to reference tons of numbers and nonsensical words into song names? what ever happened to naming a song after or related to it's inspiration? or target feeling? all these "ikzart 4" and "melydo" silly letter mixing song names keep getting on my nerves.. i'd rather see people name songs after something i have no clue as to what it's in reference to i.e. "jennifer" or "a long time away from home" and have them even SEEM to mean something.. i think it adds a bit to the value of it.. the more wack names i see.. the less i remember the name.. also.. the less i seem to associate almost ANY type of humanity to it.. anyone else agree? disagree? aaron systorm technologies www.systorm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-11 22:23Josh Davisonit's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody makes on up ...
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it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody makes on up ... but really think about where song titles have traditionally come from. back in the day, songs had lyrics (that's when people "sing" over the music for those of you who have been listening to autechre) and you'd take the title from a line in the lyrics. other times people would write a song based on a place or a person (like Mozart -- he's got a symphony called "Prague" for instance). but alot of the music i write --er, construct-- basically comes about as a series of happy technological accidents rather than a pre-existing vision so coming up with a title for the piece of music will happen in the same way. if i do have an emotion associated with the song, I'll come up with words that evoke that emotion for the title. sometimes i get names from my gear ... most digital instruments do not supply an ASCII type keyboard so you're stuck entering names through these convoluted processes like "type the 3 key four times for the letter 'f'" or tapping in letters from your controller keyboard. It's very easy to mess up a title and from there it's very easy to say "hey that glitchy title looks really kool" because you saw a title with a name like that on the latest Ae release... anyway that's a large part of it anyway. i consciously try to NOT come up with names that sound like autechre titles (or aphex twin titles -- you know, the funny anagrams and computer symbols) because I don't want to get yelled at by IDM-L headz (hehehehe) so most of my song titles come from science, physics, bad jokes and chicago landmarks. stay away. mine. splaen, glixbo, prlo6bim. josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 11 May 2000, aaron wrote:
quoted 32 lines on the same Ae cloning thing..> on the same Ae cloning thing.. > certainly many people may model after or be severly influenced by Ae's > music.. > but does that really mean they need to model thier song naming scheme after > it? > why is it that most new IDM artists need to reference tons of numbers and > nonsensical words into song names? > what ever happened to naming a song after or related to it's inspiration? or > target feeling? > > all these "ikzart 4" and "melydo" silly letter mixing song names keep > getting on my nerves.. > i'd rather see people name songs after something i have no clue as to what > it's in reference to > i.e. "jennifer" or "a long time away from home" and have them even SEEM to > mean something.. > i think it adds a bit to the value of it.. the more wack names i see.. the > less i remember the name.. > also.. the less i seem to associate almost ANY type of humanity to it.. > > anyone else agree? disagree? > > aaron > systorm technologies > www.systorm.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-05-12 03:48Eyal DechterI have a feeling that some of the IDM artists out there name their songs with screwed up n
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I have a feeling that some of the IDM artists out there name their songs with screwed up names because they don't have any inspiration. Come on, how much inspiration do you need to come up with some of the really bad shitty IDM out there. -----Original Message----- From: aaron [mailto:step@systorm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:26 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: [idm] on the Ae thing on the same Ae cloning thing.. certainly many people may model after or be severly influenced by Ae's music.. but does that really mean they need to model thier song naming scheme after it? why is it that most new IDM artists need to reference tons of numbers and nonsensical words into song names? what ever happened to naming a song after or related to it's inspiration? or target feeling? all these "ikzart 4" and "melydo" silly letter mixing song names keep getting on my nerves.. i'd rather see people name songs after something i have no clue as to what it's in reference to i.e. "jennifer" or "a long time away from home" and have them even SEEM to mean something.. i think it adds a bit to the value of it.. the more wack names i see.. the less i remember the name.. also.. the less i seem to associate almost ANY type of humanity to it.. anyone else agree? disagree? aaron systorm technologies www.systorm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-11 22:31Rjyan KidwellRe: (autechrey) song titles > it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as so
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quoted 2 lines it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody> it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody > makes on up ...
it's emo track titles. i'm not joking. just watch. -rk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-11 22:40Josh Davisonthat makes perfect sense as the next fad is usually a diametric reaction against the previ
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that makes perfect sense as the next fad is usually a diametric reaction against the previous one ... the current fad is cold inhuman machine style words, so the next one should be emotional touchy feely ones -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 11 May 2000, Rjyan Kidwell wrote:
quoted 19 lines Re: (autechrey) song titles> Re: (autechrey) song titles > > > > it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody > > makes on up ... > > it's emo track titles. > i'm not joking. just watch. > > > > -rk > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-05-11 22:32Loptimiste@aol.comYou know.. I think he's completely right. In fact, I don't understand all this bitching ab
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You know.. I think he's completely right. In fact, I don't understand all this bitching about song titles. Instead of bitching about song titles, shut the fuck up, write your own songs, and name them what you think is the "right" way. I'm highly reminded of the term "backseat driver" whenever i read some of the idiotic(elitist? same thing) posts. Once again, it's the drugs talking not me. Jared --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-11 22:33Simon PaulJosh Davison wrote: > it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as so
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Josh Davison wrote:
quoted 8 lines it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody> it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody > makes on up ... > > but really think about where song titles have traditionally come from. > > back in the day, songs had lyrics (that's when people "sing" over the > music for those of you who have been listening to autechre) and you'd take > the title from a line in the lyrics.
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2000-05-12 02:13Noah>> it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody >> makes on
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quoted 5 lines it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody>> it's just a fad, people will move on to the next style as soon as somebody >> makes on up ... > >it's emo track titles. >i'm not joking. just watch.
yeah, like 'heart cop' or 'at least i could say i tried?' or 'love in the grass' or 'like like' or 'waking up alone' and the like? ;) you guys are trying to set a trend of emo track titles. it's a bad trend! i think attaching falsified or unjustifed emotion to music is just as bad, if not worse, than sucking all the emotion out of your music ...... but it's just track titles anyway, i really can't get too worked up about this subject. something musical: new luke vibert with bj cole is suprisingly good.. perfect for this summer while i drive around in the sun. slide guitar and hiphop/jungle beats is a lot better than one might expect. noah --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-12 06:35Jeff Shoemaker>yeah, like 'heart cop' or 'at least i could say i tried?' or 'love in the grass' or >'lik
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quoted 1 line yeah, like 'heart cop' or 'at least i could say i tried?' or 'lov>yeah, like 'heart cop' or 'at least i could say i tried?' or 'love in the
grass' or
quoted 1 line 'like like' or 'waking up alone' and the like? ;)>'like like' or 'waking up alone' and the like? ;)
doesn't Locust already do this? -jeff ------------ 1642 try 621 ------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-26 00:31Martin LomasWhy are so many IDM song titles apparently meaningless, or made up of apparently meaningle
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Why are so many IDM song titles apparently meaningless, or made up of apparently meaningless words, or words with strange letter substitutions, numbers and punctuation? (A) It's as good a way as any to reflect on life. (B) To avoid song titles like "I don't fucking know #17" and "Look what my synth did now #25". (C) It's leet type behaviour. (D) It's the language of techno, dude. (E) Electronic musicians got no soul. (F) Electronic musicians got no life. (G) It's what Autechre does. (H) Lighten up, fuckwit. (I) All of the above. (J) Other - please specify. Please check all that apply. If you think this is silly and disrespectful, or interesting and humble, you're right. Martin http://www.musicwomb.org/
2003-01-26 01:36ben gillwhy don't we all just face facts: coming up with a good title is hard work. One IDMer who
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why don't we all just face facts: coming up with a good title is hard work. One IDMer who I feel is successful in this dept. is Kid606. I think I've probably heard about six of his tunes in my life, but I gotta say, his titles are good. Naming your track "-5-4325790834=25ieor;oi" is an easy way out of the difficult job of finding a good (albeit traditional) track title. If you consider "a02=375hyr5" a legit title, then it's legit, end of story. But flying in the face of tradition a la Gertrude Stein's "Tender Buttons" is an easy way to replace the concept of innovation with laziness. The honorable thing to do is to forget about titles completely, instead of adding some nonsense to music which most definitely isn't nonsense (some AE excluded). Ben --- Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com> wrote:
quoted 23 lines Why are so many IDM song titles apparently> Why are so many IDM song titles apparently > meaningless, or made up of apparently meaningless > words, or words with strange letter substitutions, > numbers and punctuation? > > (A) It's as good a way as any to reflect on life. > (B) To avoid song titles like "I don't fucking know > #17" and "Look what my synth did now #25". > (C) It's leet type behaviour. > (D) It's the language of techno, dude. > (E) Electronic musicians got no soul. > (F) Electronic musicians got no life. > (G) It's what Autechre does. > (H) Lighten up, fuckwit. > (I) All of the above. > (J) Other - please specify. > > Please check all that apply. > > If you think this is silly and disrespectful, or > interesting and humble, you're right. > Martin > http://www.musicwomb.org/
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2003-01-26 03:30brian finkI do agree , song titles are a tough and important matter to me.Even though I probably won
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I do agree , song titles are a tough and important matter to me.Even though I probably wont release any of my tunes, I still have a little book where I write down names when ever i think cool ones for songs.Its just as much an art statement as the music I think. fink --- ben gill <gillette_foamy@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 54 lines why don't we all just face facts: coming up with a> why don't we all just face facts: coming up with a > good title is hard work. One IDMer who I feel is > successful in this dept. is Kid606. I think I've > probably heard about six of his tunes in my life, > but > I gotta say, his titles are good. Naming your track > "-5-4325790834=25ieor;oi" is an easy way out of the > difficult job of finding a good (albeit traditional) > track title. If you consider "a02=375hyr5" a legit > title, then it's legit, end of story. But flying in > the face of tradition a la Gertrude Stein's "Tender > Buttons" is an easy way to replace the concept of > innovation with laziness. The honorable thing to do > is to forget about titles completely, instead of > adding some nonsense to music which most definitely > isn't nonsense (some AE excluded). > > > Ben > > --- Martin Lomas <mlomas@rogers.com> wrote: > > Why are so many IDM song titles apparently > > meaningless, or made up of apparently meaningless > > words, or words with strange letter substitutions, > > numbers and punctuation? > > > > (A) It's as good a way as any to reflect on life. > > (B) To avoid song titles like "I don't fucking > know > > #17" and "Look what my synth did now #25". > > (C) It's leet type behaviour. > > (D) It's the language of techno, dude. > > (E) Electronic musicians got no soul. > > (F) Electronic musicians got no life. > > (G) It's what Autechre does. > > (H) Lighten up, fuckwit. > > (I) All of the above. > > (J) Other - please specify. > > > > Please check all that apply. > > > > If you think this is silly and disrespectful, or > > interesting and humble, you're right. > > Martin > > http://www.musicwomb.org/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > >
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2003-01-26 03:34cutupsThe best song titles are stuntrocks. He's got everybody beat. ----- Original Message -----
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The best song titles are stuntrocks. He's got everybody beat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian fink" <brianfink2000@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Song Titles
quoted 7 lines I do agree , song titles are a tough and important> > I do agree , song titles are a tough and important > matter to me.Even though I probably wont release any > of my tunes, I still have a little book where I write > down names when ever i think cool ones for songs.Its > just as much an art statement as the music I think. >
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2003-01-26 06:42Brandon SmithAnal Cunt has got to be a close second, no? --- cutups <cutup@andythepooh.com> wrote: > Th
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Anal Cunt has got to be a close second, no? --- cutups <cutup@andythepooh.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines The best song titles are stuntrocks.> The best song titles are stuntrocks. > He's got everybody beat. > >
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