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2002-12-16 03:16andrewduke@canada.combelow is a response I just made to a post on the microsound list; might be of interest and
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below is a response I just made to a post on the microsound list; might be of interest and start a discussion: On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, "Chad Munson" wrote re: grindcore & death metal: "...As far as pushing the limits of modern music these bands do alot more for me personaly than most clicks n cutz, mircosound and lowercase. Im not saying that electronic has less merit, i just think that electronic musicans as a whole tend to have an ego complex. More electronic musicans need to break the mold, and start enjoying or at least appreciating other forms of music you cant forget electronic music branches from everything..." Chad: While your first sentence is a statement of your personal preference, no disrespect intended, but the "as a whole" and "more" generalizations in the two sentences that follow are nonsensical assumptions about a huge group of people (ie everyone who makes electronic music other than yourself). I'm guessing that this statement came from perhaps your thinking that if some people on the list don't appreciate grindcore and death metal, that it would follow that these same people are not "appreciating other forms of music". I would state the opposite is true. Pop music is music which is most popular; music which transcends languages worldwide and by the sheer number of people it pleases, is aimed at the lowest common denominator. One of the world's most popular artists, regardless of music style, is Shania Twain. Why did she release two different versions of her new album (a "rock" version and a "country" version)? Well, to appear to the greatest number of people worldwide; by making her material as accessible as possible, she was aiming for the lowest common denominator. People who are true music _lovers_ (I'm basing this on professional experience--my own and others--on radio, in the music media, and in music stores) tend to like music for the sake of music ie they truly like the music that they like, whereas people who are music _consumers_ are the ones who tend to--because they do not have a true love for music and do not have their own tastes (their tastes are _created- by marketing)--treat music as sonic wallpaper. When they purchase music, they tend to go for the music that is popular at the time. Right now, the most popular form of music on the planet is hip hop/"hip pop". Now, there are certainly people who like hip hop because they like hip hop, but there is a far greater amount of people who like hip hop/"hip pop" because that is what is popular, and, having no personal opinion, follow the crowd. The highest common denominator are those who have personal preference and personal opinions on what they do and do not like. Microsound is challenging music; it is demanding to listen to and, unlike a song from Britney Spears, for example, has not been crafted to appeal to a worldwide audience of millions. The average Britney Spears fan is someone who is a fan because s/he is a follower of popular opinion, not because s/he has listened to a wide variety of styles of music--microsound, glitch, lowercase, folk, blues, jazz, pop, etc--and decided that Britney Spears is his/her favorite music. Pop music's biggest consumers are those who have the least interest in music; pop music is the opposite of challenging and demanding music (such as microsound, and even grindcore and death metal) because pop music, by its very nature, is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator--the greatest number of people worldwide. I'm not sure if you meant _elitism_ when you spoke of "ego complex"; if so, I would say the opposite is true. The UK's The Wire magazine, for example, has been accused by some of elitism, of being "snobbish" and reviewing only challenging and demanding and "difficult" music; yet, Timbaland and The Neptunes--who are behind some of the most popular of the pop music out there, receive "props" for their innovation. I find this an interesting juxtaposition because, whereas The Wire will review microsound producers _and_ Timbaland and The Neptunes' productions--and The Wire is called elitist by some--you won't see a popular magazine such as Rolling Stone--which is never called elitist--reviewing microsound, and yet it _is_ constantly focusing on popular music such as your Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, etc. The Wire is reviewing microsound _as well as_ Timbaland and The Neptunes because The Wire exists to champion music of the highest common denominator--that which is challenging. Rolling Stone, on the other hand, has the exact opposite goal. I know when I'm listening to the new single from NSYNC's Justin Timberlake ("Cry Me A River"), I'm appreciating the fact that the production from Timbaland and Scott Storch is built on percussion and a hook that is fashioned from Timbaland's mouth sounds. I couldn't give a damn that Justin Timberlake is popular; heck, I'd rather that I had access to an instrumental version so I didn't have to hear his voice. But the majority of people that do listen to Timberlake are listening more because they have been directed to it by popular opinion (the lead singer of a popular band goes solo routine) rather than that the hi hats are vocal-chord-created. When people form their opinions based on what they know is popular, these people narrow their scope and end up shying from the challenging, the demanding, and the difficult. The Wire, microsound listees; we're into music for the sake of it, for the love of it, and are thus open to music of all types to please the ear's hunger; not to be seen as matching up to the kid next door who just got the new Britney Spears CD because the kid next door got it because the kid next door got it and so on. If someone on this list doesn't like grindcore or death metal, it's because s/he doesn't like it, not because s/he isn't open minded and doesn't appreciate other forms of music. Andrew "waiting to check out the new Aaliyah album on Tuesday in the hopes that there will be new productions from Timbaland on it" Duke :) albums out now: Sprung (http://bip-hop.com) More Destructive Than Organized (http://staalplaat.com) Highest Common Denominator (http://pieheadrecords.com) Physical and Mental Health (http://dialrecords.com) 74'02 (split with Hypo) (http://tsunami-addiction.com) check Cognition (http://techno.ca/cognition) for upcoming appearance and release updates __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org