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2002-11-24 08:01al [idm] better than squarepusher
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2002-11-24 08:01alhey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at aliscool.iuma.com do
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hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness and impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i havent found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but theyre not really electronic at all] aL _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-24 12:26Brandon Tallenttry venetian snares, if you haven't already. --- al <al_w@hehe.com> wrote: > hey im new to
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try venetian snares, if you haven't already. --- al <al_w@hehe.com> wrote:
quoted 20 lines hey im new to the list if you want check out my> hey im new to the list if you want check out my > dodgy music sample at > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. > > -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival > squarepusher for brokenness and > impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since > it came out and i havent > found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr > bungle and oysterhead but > theyre not really electronic at all] > > aL > > _____________________________________________ > Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! > http://www.MyOwnEmail.com > > >
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2002-11-25 21:30Brandon SmithI'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the connection, especially on a few tracks frow his
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I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the connection, especially on a few tracks frow his recent work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how the mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better flow. In short, his music is accessable on all levels. Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a third. There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can think of that compares. Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. brandon --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 3 lines try venetian snares, if you haven't already.> try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > >
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2002-11-26 04:39Brandon TallentWell, of course they don't sound exactly the same. But for someone who is looking for that
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Well, of course they don't sound exactly the same. But for someone who is looking for that same vein of fast breakbeat type jungle, they're pretty close to each other. I think the venetian snares odd time signatures are one of the most interesting and cool aspects of his tracks. Half the time, it doesn't even register on a conscious level that he's writing in an odd time signature. For example, vokesheads on ultra higgins is like 7/8 but the whole track flows perfectly. And it's very hard to make a track in a weird time signature like that and STILL have it groove so you can bob your head to it. I'm sure anyone on this list could point out all of the nuances in the sound between aphex twin vs autechre vs squarepusher, but for someone who is just getting familar with the genre(s), I think venetian snares fits the bill quite well for what he is looking for. Brandon --- Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 34 lines I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the> I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > connection, especially on a few tracks frow his > recent > work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how > the > mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > levels. > Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a > third. > There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > think of that compares. > Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > brandon > > > --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > > try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus ? Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > >
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2002-11-26 18:18MuffinSo, what is the best Venetian snares release I should be checking out first of all? _muff.
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So, what is the best Venetian snares release I should be checking out first of all? _muff._ on 26/11/02 4:39 am the person going by the name Brandon Tallent at djresonance@yahoo.com spake :
quoted 74 lines Well, of course they don't sound exactly the same.> Well, of course they don't sound exactly the same. > But for someone who is looking for that same vein of > fast breakbeat type jungle, they're pretty close to > each other. I think the venetian snares odd time > signatures are one of the most interesting and cool > aspects of his tracks. Half the time, it doesn't even > register on a conscious level that he's writing in an > odd time signature. For example, vokesheads on ultra > higgins is like 7/8 but the whole track flows > perfectly. And it's very hard to make a track in a > weird time signature like that and STILL have it > groove so you can bob your head to it. I'm sure > anyone on this list could point out all of the nuances > in the sound between aphex twin vs autechre vs > squarepusher, but for someone who is just getting > familar with the genre(s), I think venetian snares > fits the bill quite well for what he is looking for. > > Brandon > > > --- Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the >> connection, especially on a few tracks frow his >> recent >> work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like >> Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big >> attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how >> the >> mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better >> flow. In short, his music is accessable on all >> levels. >> Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make >> things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom >> doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a >> third. >> There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck >> Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can >> think of that compares. >> Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. >> brandon >> >> >> --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> try venetian snares, if you haven't already. >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Mail Plus ? Powerful. Affordable. Sign up >> now. >> http://mailplus.yahoo.com >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-11-26 18:11Brandon SmithPerhaps the mystery adds to it for me, but Winter in the Belly of a Snake looks like it'll
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Perhaps the mystery adds to it for me, but Winter in the Belly of a Snake looks like it'll be his best thus far. At least by the sample on www.planet-mu.com I'd have to say Higgens Ultra Low Glue Funk Hits 1972-2006 Oh, and I understand that he and Hecate are planning to release an album comprised entirely of their fuck noises [I kid you not]. This of course seems too good to be true, and I'm truly sorry if I am merely spreading false information here, but this album....I....I just have to have it. Thats all there is too it. I will buy a decent system for my car specifically *for this album*. brandon --- Muffin <muffin@signmytits.com> wrote:
quoted 6 lines So, what is the best Venetian snares release I> So, what is the best Venetian snares release I > should be checking out first > of all? > > _muff._ >
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2002-11-25 01:48adam schwarczHrvatski's new one, Swarm and Dither on Planet Mu is what Do You Know Squarepusher should'
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Hrvatski's new one, Swarm and Dither on Planet Mu is what Do You Know Squarepusher should've been. Amazing stuff, highly recommended. adam On 11/24/02 3:01 AM, "al" <al_w@hehe.com> wrote:
quoted 18 lines hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at> hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. > > -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness and > impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i havent > found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but > theyre not really electronic at all] > > aL > > _____________________________________________ > Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! > http://www.MyOwnEmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-11-25 14:01alexOn Sun, 2002-11-24 at 08:01, al wrote: > hey im new to the list if you want check out my d
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On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 08:01, al wrote:
quoted 2 lines hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at> hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it.
[alex@omni alex]$ mpg123 http://artists.iuma.com/site-bin/mp3gen/74057/IUMA/Bands/aL/audio/aL_-_vvvvbvvv__shortass_webedit.mp3 High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2 and 3. Version 0.59r (1999/Jun/15). Written and copyrights by Michael Hipp. Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more! THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! Segmentation fault [alex@omni alex]$ it broke my computer! ;) seriously though I managed to listen in the end and can say that i would definitely dance to it and you should make more.
quoted 4 lines -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness and> -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness and > impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i havent > found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but > theyre not really electronic at all]
well someone (playlouder) once said that we (slub) make sqrpshr look like a pussy. i don't agree ("do you know squarepusher" is very nice) but you might like a listen to the track linked from here in the bottom right: http://www.ultrasound.ws/live/slub.html actually that track is part of a release on the beautiful http://fals.ch - go there and get it there, they probably have more bandwidth. ;) go to http://www.ultrasound.ws to check out the electronic music festival that's happening in huddersfield, uk this weekend though. anyway --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-24 15:05qwertyvenetian snares, especially the ''funk glue hits" on planet mu album has some similarities
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venetian snares, especially the ''funk glue hits" on planet mu album has some similarities to the "go plastic" album... i think jenkinson had a lot of influence on vsnares... check it out... also afx with "drukqs" and the really great "2 rmxs" release is as interesting as "go plastic"... (to me, it's even better, but it's just a subjective opinion...) i like the terminal 11 "speed modified" album on phthalo that has really complexed structures and wicked beats like the 'pusher's work... also try new squarepusher's album "do you know s..." if you haven't already... it has most wicked square track ever (mutilation colony!) ;-)
quoted 4 lines hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at> hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. > > -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness
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quoted 1 line impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i> impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i
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quoted 2 lines found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but> found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but > theyre not really electronic at all]
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2002-11-24 15:51inkyThese 2 albums have some nice broken beat drum n bass with the touch of electronic sound.
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These 2 albums have some nice broken beat drum n bass with the touch of electronic sound. bogdan raczynski - boku mo wakaran Hrvatski - oiseaux 96-98 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-24 16:11Simon BlanchetHi! First I would like to say that I'm a HUGE Squarepusher fan. Since I fall in love with
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Hi! First I would like to say that I'm a HUGE Squarepusher fan. Since I fall in love with Amon Tobin's Bricolage album, I started a quest to find out other artist that were pushing drum n bass to its limit (streching it's boundaries and blending it with other genres). The sound that I was looking for was "skidzophrenic", broken, drum n bass that somes likes to call "Drill n Bass". I didn't took a while to find out some of the key artist of the genre (if somes agree on that definition). All this to say that if its the "drill n bass" aspect of Squarepusher that you enjoy here are some artists that have a sound that is somewhere near this type of thing: - Amon Tobin - Animals On Wheels (first album "Designs and Mistakes", now more into idm with less skizophrenic drum n bass madness) - Clifford Gilberto (more jazzy, less broken) - Aphex Twin If it's the weirdness and the brokenness aspect of Squarepusher that you enjoy, I would confess that I'm still looking for that and it's nearly a full time job ;-). But some day, I came to Venetian Snares... Oh my lord, this guy is wicked! I would say, and that's a very personnal and "not enough informed" opinion, that I've not found yet any other artist that satify my thirst for "broken-skidzo-experimental-drum n bass sound" like those 2 artists: - Squarepusher - Venetian Snares If you have not yet listened to Venetian Snares, I mandate you to do so, I'll garante your statisfaction ;-). Go to http://www.planet-mu.com and have some sample of both: VSNARES - 237 0894 VENETIAN SNARES - HIGGINS ULTRA LOW TRACK GLUE FUNK HITS 1972 - 2006 Hope that other people from the IDM list can help both of us in our "quest" for experimental drum n bass "a la" Squarepusher... ----- Original Message ----- From: "al" <al_w@hehe.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 3:01 AM Subject: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 4 lines hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at> hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. > > -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness
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quoted 14 lines found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but> found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but > theyre not really electronic at all] > > aL > > _____________________________________________ > Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! > http://www.MyOwnEmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-25 05:02Greg Bakernot drum n bass, but there's another warp guy by the name of chris clark who is often equa
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not drum n bass, but there's another warp guy by the name of chris clark who is often equally impatient. what did you make your track with? i like it. gsbaker@attbi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "al" <al_w@hehe.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 4 lines hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at> hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. > > -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness
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quoted 1 line impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i> impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i
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quoted 15 lines found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but> found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead but > theyre not really electronic at all] > > aL > > _____________________________________________ > Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! > http://www.MyOwnEmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-11-25 21:35cutupsThis is true...however, i think if you like squarepusher you should definietly at least ch
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This is true...however, i think if you like squarepusher you should definietly at least check out snares, because the form is at least vaguely similar. If snares sounded more like squarepusher the criticism would be that he's just biting his style. Undeniably, snares is more harsh and "difficult", in terms of changeups and time sigs. If you want something more like squarepusher than snares i'd definitely recommend flashbulb & line47. - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Smith" <gozravp@yahoo.com> To: "Brandon Tallent" <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 34 lines I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the> I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > connection, especially on a few tracks frow his recent > work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how the > mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > levels. > Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a third. > There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > think of that compares. > Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > brandon > > > --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > > try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-11-25 21:44thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.comand there lies the difference between 4/4 and 3/7 :) respect to those that can pull it off
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and there lies the difference between 4/4 and 3/7 :) respect to those that can pull it off... btw - i'd find vsnares 'printf' - track 5 (i beleieve) is some hot shit right there... --- http://www.edgey.net http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com 'intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only kills itself.' 'when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.' AIM: SINIBYTE | ICQ: 126370648 --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon Smith" <gozravp@yahoo.com> To: "Brandon Tallent" <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 34 lines I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the> I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > connection, especially on a few tracks frow his recent > work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how the > mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > levels. > Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a third. > There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > think of that compares. > Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > brandon > > > --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > > try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-11-25 21:49Rich WarchildIs that "befriend a Child Killer" on the Doll Doll Doll album? Fucking ill track.. Rich Wa
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Is that "befriend a Child Killer" on the Doll Doll Doll album? Fucking ill track.. Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 AIM: The DJ Warchild ICQ: 2021032 Affiliations Warchild (http://www.djwarchild.com) Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) Airplane Clique (http://www.airplaneclique.da.ru) Just 2 Management (http://www.JustTwo.com) ----- Original Message ----- From: <thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com> To: Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com>; Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 64 lines and there lies the difference between 4/4 and 3/7> and there lies the difference between 4/4 and 3/7 > > :) > > respect to those that can pull it off... > btw - i'd find vsnares 'printf' - track 5 (i beleieve) is some hot shit > right there... > > --- > http://www.edgey.net > http://www.mp3.com/edgey > http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com > 'intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only > kills itself.' > 'when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.' > AIM: SINIBYTE | ICQ: 126370648 > --- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brandon Smith" <gozravp@yahoo.com> > To: "Brandon Tallent" <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher > > > > I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > > connection, especially on a few tracks frow his recent > > work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > > Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > > attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how the > > mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > > flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > > levels. > > Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > > things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > > doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a third. > > There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > > Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > > think of that compares. > > Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > > brandon > > > > > > --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-25 21:58thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.comits the one with the juno / ravish line over the chopped fukt edit jungle beats... long in
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its the one with the juno / ravish line over the chopped fukt edit jungle beats... long intro, with the little kid saying " YES!" before it drops.. i forget the name... --- http://www.edgey.net http://www.mp3.com/edgey http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com 'intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only kills itself.' 'when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.' AIM: SINIBYTE | ICQ: 126370648 --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Warchild" <djwarchild@hotmail.com> To: <thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com>; "Brandon Smith" <gozravp@yahoo.com>; "Brandon Tallent" <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 86 lines Is that "befriend a Child Killer" on the Doll Doll Doll album?> Is that "befriend a Child Killer" on the Doll Doll Doll album? > > > Fucking ill track.. > > Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 > AIM: The DJ Warchild ICQ: 2021032 > Affiliations > Warchild (http://www.djwarchild.com) > Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) > Airplane Clique (http://www.airplaneclique.da.ru) > Just 2 Management (http://www.JustTwo.com) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <thoughtbludgeon@thoughtbludgeon.com> > To: Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com>; Brandon Tallent > <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher > > > > and there lies the difference between 4/4 and 3/7 > > > > :) > > > > respect to those that can pull it off... > > btw - i'd find vsnares 'printf' - track 5 (i beleieve) is some hot shit > > right there... > > > > --- > > http://www.edgey.net > > http://www.mp3.com/edgey > > http://www.thoughtbludgeon.com > > 'intellect in rational movement tries to kill emotion, in doing so, only > > kills itself.' > > 'when you're holding a hammer, everything looks like a nail.' > > AIM: SINIBYTE | ICQ: 126370648 > > --- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brandon Smith" <gozravp@yahoo.com> > > To: "Brandon Tallent" <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher > > > > > > > I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > > > connection, especially on a few tracks frow his recent > > > work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > > > Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > > > attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how the > > > mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > > > flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > > > levels. > > > Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > > > things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > > > doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a third. > > > There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > > > Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > > > think of that compares. > > > Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > > > brandon > > > > > > > > > --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2002-11-25 23:20KewuHeya all. I'm new to the list and thought I'd give you my opinion. Definitely check out th
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Heya all. I'm new to the list and thought I'd give you my opinion. Definitely check out the album, "Clarence Park" by Chris Clark. I just recently discovered it and have been way into it. It's some great shit. Like some others have been saying, please listen to venetian snares and hrvatski if you are into squarepusher. In some ways they're leagues ahead of [_] pusher. While not of the same style as the previously mentioned artists, Scott Herrin (Prefuse73/Savath and Savalas/etc...) has been doing some amazingly cutting edge work and holding my attention. He has a bunch of stuff out right now, but my personal favorite at the moment is the Rolls and Waves EP. Also, couldn't help but notice someone talking about Amon Tobin... I have some thoughts about him I'd like to share, so please see my next post ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Baker" <gsbaker@attbi.com> To: "IDM Mailing List" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 1 line not drum n bass, but there's another warp guy by the name of chris clark> not drum n bass, but there's another warp guy by the name of chris clark
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quoted 21 lines is often equally impatient.> is often equally impatient. > > what did you make your track with? i like it. > > gsbaker@attbi.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "al" <al_w@hehe.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:01 AM > Subject: [idm] better than squarepusher > > > > hey im new to the list if you want check out my dodgy music sample at > > aliscool.iuma.com dont do it. > > > > -anyone know any drumnbass that could rival squarepusher for brokenness > and > > impatience? ive been listening to go plastic since it came out and i > havent > > found anything as interesting yet [apart from mr bungle and oysterhead
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quoted 20 lines theyre not really electronic at all]> > theyre not really electronic at all] > > > > aL > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! > > http://www.MyOwnEmail.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-26 17:16componentHiggin Ultra Glue Funk Hits The new 3" on hymen is supa' fucked up and comes in the cooles
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Higgin Ultra Glue Funk Hits The new 3" on hymen is supa' fucked up and comes in the coolest packaging I've seen. Rob! ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Muffin <muffin@signmytits.com> To: Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 88 lines So, what is the best Venetian snares release I should be checking out first> So, what is the best Venetian snares release I should be checking out first > of all? > > _muff._ > > on 26/11/02 4:39 am the person going by the name Brandon Tallent at > djresonance@yahoo.com spake : > > > Well, of course they don't sound exactly the same. > > But for someone who is looking for that same vein of > > fast breakbeat type jungle, they're pretty close to > > each other. I think the venetian snares odd time > > signatures are one of the most interesting and cool > > aspects of his tracks. Half the time, it doesn't even > > register on a conscious level that he's writing in an > > odd time signature. For example, vokesheads on ultra > > higgins is like 7/8 but the whole track flows > > perfectly. And it's very hard to make a track in a > > weird time signature like that and STILL have it > > groove so you can bob your head to it. I'm sure > > anyone on this list could point out all of the nuances > > in the sound between aphex twin vs autechre vs > > squarepusher, but for someone who is just getting > > familar with the genre(s), I think venetian snares > > fits the bill quite well for what he is looking for. > > > > Brandon > > > > > > --- Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > >> connection, especially on a few tracks frow his > >> recent > >> work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > >> Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > >> attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how > >> the > >> mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > >> flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > >> levels. > >> Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > >> things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > >> doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a > >> third. > >> There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > >> Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > >> think of that compares. > >> Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > >> brandon > >> > >> > >> --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> Yahoo! Mail Plus ? Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > >> now. > >> http://mailplus.yahoo.com > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >> idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > >> idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-26 17:38Rich WarchildWoh, a 3"??? that CD or vinyl? Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 AIM: The DJ Warchild ICQ: 202103
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Woh, a 3"??? that CD or vinyl? Rich Warchild 781-856-3804 AIM: The DJ Warchild ICQ: 2021032 Affiliations Warchild (http://www.djwarchild.com) Ruffneck Playaz Crew (http://www.ruffneckplayazcrew.com) Airplane Clique (http://www.airplaneclique.da.ru) Just 2 Management (http://www.JustTwo.com) ----- Original Message ----- From: component <component@mindstorm.com> To: Muffin <muffin@signmytits.com>; Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher
quoted 3 lines Higgin Ultra Glue Funk Hits> Higgin Ultra Glue Funk Hits > > The new 3" on hymen is supa' fucked up and comes in the coolest packaging
I've seen.
quoted 16 lines Rob!> > Rob! > ::::::Component Records::::::: > Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 > www.componentrecords.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Muffin <muffin@signmytits.com> > To: Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] better than squarepusher > > > > So, what is the best Venetian snares release I should be checking out
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quoted 93 lines of all?> > of all? > > > > _muff._ > > > > on 26/11/02 4:39 am the person going by the name Brandon Tallent at > > djresonance@yahoo.com spake : > > > > > Well, of course they don't sound exactly the same. > > > But for someone who is looking for that same vein of > > > fast breakbeat type jungle, they're pretty close to > > > each other. I think the venetian snares odd time > > > signatures are one of the most interesting and cool > > > aspects of his tracks. Half the time, it doesn't even > > > register on a conscious level that he's writing in an > > > odd time signature. For example, vokesheads on ultra > > > higgins is like 7/8 but the whole track flows > > > perfectly. And it's very hard to make a track in a > > > weird time signature like that and STILL have it > > > groove so you can bob your head to it. I'm sure > > > anyone on this list could point out all of the nuances > > > in the sound between aphex twin vs autechre vs > > > squarepusher, but for someone who is just getting > > > familar with the genre(s), I think venetian snares > > > fits the bill quite well for what he is looking for. > > > > > > Brandon > > > > > > > > > --- Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> I'm seeing this quite a bit. I can see the > > >> connection, especially on a few tracks frow his > > >> recent > > >> work on planet-mu, but he really doesn't flow like > > >> Tom. This isn't a criticism of course, but a big > > >> attraction to squarepusher, for me anyway, is how > > >> the > > >> mutilation is reconstructed to form an even better > > >> flow. In short, his music is accessable on all > > >> levels. > > >> Vsnares often seems to make it a point to NOT make > > >> things "right", or at least not as accessable. Tom > > >> doesn't switch time signatures every loop and a > > >> third. > > >> There are exceptions in both cases of course. Fuck > > >> Toronto Jungle is probably the closest tracks I can > > >> think of that compares. > > >> Also, Squarepusher has a much cleaner sound. > > >> brandon > > >> > > >> > > >> --- Brandon Tallent <djresonance@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>> try venetian snares, if you haven't already. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> __________________________________________________ > > >> Do you Yahoo!? > > >> Yahoo! Mail Plus ? Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > >> now. > > >> http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > >> > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > >> idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >> idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >> > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-11-26 18:26Rich WarchildI heard that too... but I was told by Geoff (Cutups) that it was just a joke of theirs.. e
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I heard that too... but I was told by Geoff (Cutups) that it was just a joke of theirs.. either way it would be a brilliant piece of work.. I don't know how long I could go without laughing... ----- Original Message ----- From: Brandon Smith <gozravp@yahoo.com>
quoted 10 lines Oh, and I understand that he and Hecate are planning> Oh, and I understand that he and Hecate are planning > to release an album comprised entirely of their fuck > noises [I kid you not]. This of course seems too good > to be true, and I'm truly sorry if I am merely > spreading false information here, but this > album....I....I just have to have it. Thats all there > is too it. I will buy a decent system for my car > specifically *for this album*. > brandon >
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