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[idm] The truth about missing the point and clarifying

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2002-10-06 17:19Re: [idm] The truth about laptop shows...
2002-10-07 11:12Tosh Cooey [idm] The truth about missing the point and clarifying
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2002-10-06 17:19Johnnymisheff@aol.comyour email is boring...you speak so personally and emphatically on a subject which is obvi
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your email is boring...you speak so personally and emphatically on a subject which is obviously a matter of opinion. please, try and refrain from speaking for everyone with your boring banter. In a message dated 10/6/02 1:43:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tosh@c4.ca writes:
quoted 44 lines Sure maybe it's flame bait, but at least it's honest flame bait.> Sure maybe it's flame bait, but at least it's honest flame bait. > > I've had this in me for about two months now. > > Do you ever wonder why a laptop show is boring? I know many of you do > because I've seen the posts to prove it. > > I know why a laptop show is boring. > > It's because the f**king music the artist is playing is boring. > > That's right. It doesn't matter how intelligent you think you are or > how intelligent you think the artist is, or what they are trying to > "achieve" with their boringness, the fact is that their music sucks. > > It's true, otherwise nobody would be complaining that it's boring. > > It's like the story "The Emperor's New Clothes." All it takes is one > little girl to say "it's boring" and everyone knows the truth. > > Sure some people will try to delude themselves because their whole > personal identity is wrapped up in thinking that because they like > boring music they are somehow special. Ignore them. > > Why do I know this? Why do I speak with such god-given authority? > > Because two months ago I was outside in Cologne at a party on the beach > (kinda) and The Modernist was playing. And do you know what? He was > the most boring d*nm performer I have ever seen. He just stood there > the entire time in front of his laptop doing something, maybe looking at > porn (I know that's what *I* would be doing) for all I know. How boring > can that be!?!?!?! But holy heaven/hell damn me if it wasn't the most > energetic and amazing set of music I (and a thousand or so others) have > heard in ages.... dance dance dance rock rock rock pumpin'..... > > So if The Modernist just sits around and is boring and other laptop > artists sit around and are boring, yet nobody complains about The > Modernist then the logical conclusion is that all the people that I am > too stupid to understand properly are boring. > > QED. > > Tosh >
2002-10-07 11:12Tosh CooeyIt always amazes me just how bad my writing is. For how else can so many people mis-interp
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It always amazes me just how bad my writing is. For how else can so many people mis-interpret my meanderings. Anyway, Jeff had some good points, so I think I need to clarify. First, to everyone who thinks I am bagging laptop shows, that is not the case. A laptop is a tool to do something, the laptop does not sing and dance for you, nor will it be scoring groupies afterwards, although oddly enough the damn things can still get viruses, but I digress. It's only a tool, so just as an Apple Mac won't make you a better designer, a laptop won't make a boring performance. Second, Kent decided to bring up Fred Gianelli. I don't know why. I have never heard anyone describe his performance as boring (well maybe his ex-girlfriend ... laugh Fred laugh ...) and to my current knowledge he doesn't use a laptop as his main performance piece. Sorry, there was no second point, I just wanted the cheap laughs of the ex-girlfriend joke. So here's my refined point about boring laptop shows in some kind of logical notation: IF you go to a performance AND the performance is BORING * (see note below) AND the performer primarily uses a laptop THEN BECAUSE a laptop is inanimate and cannot be blamed AND BECAUSE the performer is only expressing their art and cannot be blamed THE only conclusion left is that the music is boring. Elementary my dear Watson. * BORING. Thanks to all you boring people telling me about subjectivity I have refined the definition of BORING to be anything which you find boring, for you personally, not for anyone else. Also notice the difference between BORING and boring. BORING is subjective and boring is universal in that we all know how boring feels. SO.... The next time you go see your favourite act perform AND they are boring AND they are using a laptop, PLEASE DON'T BLAME THE LAPTOP, it's the MUSIC which is BORING * * (according to the above definition) Thank-you for allowing me to clarify. Tosh -- Twelve Hundred Group http://www.1200group.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org