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I picked up a 2x12" from Deadly Systems last night called Praxis USA. Hard dnb, hardcore, some noise. Dj Scud, Hecate, Christoph Fringeli and more in a similar vein. The vinyl mastering is interseting- the first three sides are standard grooves. On the fourth side there are three tracks, about 5 minutes each. The third track, at about 10 minutes in to the side, is a standard groove that progresses toward the center. On the first two tracks on the disc, however, the groove moves from the center towards the edge! Backwards! Still clockwise, so the music isn't backwards, but in a reverse direction. That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other releases? Somebody should put out and entire record or reverse grooves.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:36:02 -0700 "Albers, Brian" <BAlbers@PremiereRadio.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other

>That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other >releases? Somebody >should put out and entire record or reverse grooves.

There's an old Dallas hardcore breakbeat record by a group called NASA Project (was Joshua Kay in it? can't remember off the top of my head) that did this on the B-side. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 12 lines The vinyl mastering is interseting- the first three sides are

> The vinyl mastering is interseting- the first three sides are > standard grooves. On the fourth side there are three tracks, > about 5 minutes each. The third track, at about 10 minutes in > to the side, is a standard groove that progresses toward the > center. On the first two tracks on the disc, however, the > groove moves from the center towards the edge! Backwards! > Still clockwise, so the music isn't backwards, but in a > reverse direction. > > That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other > releases? Somebody should put out and entire record or > reverse grooves.

I know Aardvark would master records this way, was listed on their main website with other weird stuff, like double grooved records (know a Psychic TV record was mastered this was) I had a 7" that was inside to out, but can't remember what it was to save my life, although believe it was punk. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i have one.. .it is a techno/techouse version of a michael jackson song on a label I can't remember. -Joel "Albers, Brian" wrote:I picked up a 2x12" from Deadly Systems last night called Praxis USA. Hard dnb, hardcore, some noise. Dj Scud, Hecate, Christoph Fringeli and more in a similar vein. The vinyl mastering is interseting- the first three sides are standard grooves. On the fourth side there are three tracks, about 5 minutes each. The third track, at about 10 minutes in to the side, is a standard groove that progresses toward the center. On the first two tracks on the disc, however, the groove moves from the center towards the edge! Backwards! Still clockwise, so the music isn't backwards, but in a reverse direction. That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other releases? Somebody should put out and entire record or reverse grooves. DJ Joel Fever - Dancehall Reggae/Hardstep Jungle "First DJ To Endorse Own Hot Sauce" [Skhoolyard Sound System - MA,Neverending Echo - MA] 09.15.02 Neverending Echo Radio w/ Paulinnate MIXES FOUND @ http://www.neverending-echo.com/audio.htm http://americandnb.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs

quoted 13 lines there are a few that i can think of...one by G D Luxxe on Interdimensional

> there are a few that i can think of...one by G D Luxxe on Interdimensional > Transmissions, another by Bug Orchestra and i think UR did it as well, can't > remember on which release, an old one i think. > > -ross. > > ---- > ......................On the first two tracks on the disc, > however, the groove moves from the center towards the edge! Backwards! Still > clockwise, so the music isn't backwards, but in a reverse direction. > > That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other releases? Somebody > should put out and entire record or reverse grooves.

there's a UR record out there called something like "hidden beneath the shadows" its a dark colored record, at first glance its black, until you hold it up to the light, then you see its a deep shade of purple, not only that but check this out, the record, on one side has 2 tracks that play on different grooves, both located in the same place, place the needle at the beginning/ you have an electro track, lift up and pull back/forward, a groove/ you have a "dnb track" if you never lifted the needle you might never know that track was on it, i believe its a track by a guy named "chameleon" check it out, its a good record and even harder to find than you think, if anyone finds one anywhere, drop me a line, i want another, take care idm people, ryan griffin ryan@octanedetroit.com (new media designer) www.octanedetroit.com highly combustible design av3rs1on@aol.com (personal e-mail) graphic design digital animation and video dj sound designer/producer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 28 lines From: "-ross." <eq@oceanfree.net>

>From: "-ross." <eq@oceanfree.net> >To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] Re: I don't know why I haven't seen this before... >Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 02:12:44 +0100 > >there are a few that i can think of...one by G D Luxxe on Interdimensional >Transmissions, another by Bug Orchestra and i think UR did it as well, >can't >remember on which release, an old one i think. > >-ross. > > > >---- >......................On the first two tracks on the disc, >however, the groove moves from the center towards the edge! Backwards! >Still >clockwise, so the music isn't backwards, but in a reverse direction. > >That's super neat! Has nobody tried this before? Other releases? Somebody >should put out and entire record or reverse grooves. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

C'mon, no old school techno guys here? no old detroiters? for shame, it's X-101 on UR. from 1991. the most classic inside out record ever... _J_ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org