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2002-08-22 00:29henrik str.mberg [idm] scion
├─ 2002-08-22 01:20[idm] scion CD is a nice treat
└─ 2002-08-23 01:41Alan R. Lockett [idm] shapes & forms [was Re: [idm] scion]
2002-08-22 09:49-ross. [idm] Re: scion
└─ 2002-08-22 13:20Re: [idm] Re: scion
2002-08-23 06:55philippe-petit [idm] Re: scion
└─ 2002-08-23 12:15Jeff Davis RE: [idm] Re: scion
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2002-08-22 00:29henrik str.mbergso i've just been to see tikiman+scion live. good show. sounded very much like the rhythm
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Thu, 22 Aug 2002 02:29:30 +0200
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so i've just been to see tikiman+scion live. good show. sounded very much like the rhythm & sound showcase album... i just couldn't shake the feeling that it's actually the same guys... rhythm & sound = scion = basic channel...? especially since r&s/bc refuce to be photographed - the only way they can play live would be to invent another alias... also, tikiman kept saying "rhythm & sound" during the gig... i dunno... hs -- ___________________________ conspiracy theories r us... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-08-22 01:20svinrave@yahoo.comi just ot it today and it is very good where did you see them live? any place in USA? ____
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Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:20:45 -0700 (PDT)
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i just ot it today and it is very good where did you see them live? any place in USA? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-08-23 01:41Alan R. LockettStill on the BC/CR artists identity tip, I'm intrigued to know the provenance and spirit o
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Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:41:25 +1000
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Still on the BC/CR artists identity tip, I'm intrigued to know the provenance and spirit of a project/artist going by the name of 'shapes & forms'. I recently came by a number of tracks by shapes & forms that sound like someone parodying the BC/CR sound (reinforced by titles that seemed like intertextual references). The sound is so generically BC/CR (obsessive 4-on-the-floor kickdrum, post-house keyboard stabs suffused with grainy background noise, and dubby effects; there are dead ringers here for tracks by the likes of Maurizio, Scion, Fluxion) that it almost comes across as caricature. What's more, the source of some of the tracks appears to be an album mischievously entitled 'Plagiarism'. So, anyone know what the game is here...? alan/beyond...sound Quoting "henrik str.mberg" <hs@groove.st>:
quoted 18 lines so i've just been to see tikiman+scion live. good show. sounded very> so i've just been to see tikiman+scion live. good show. sounded very > much like the rhythm & sound showcase album... i just couldn't shake > the feeling that it's actually the same guys... rhythm & sound = > scion = basic channel...? especially since r&s/bc refuce to be > photographed - the only way they can play live would be to invent > another alias... also, tikiman kept saying "rhythm & sound" during > the gig... i dunno... > > hs > -- > ___________________________ > conspiracy theories r us... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-08-22 09:49-ross.scion is rené lowe and peter kuschnereit. they've done stuff before on chain reaction (as
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Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:49:00 +0100
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scion is rené lowe and peter kuschnereit. they've done stuff before on chain reaction (as vainquer, substance and scion of course). rhythm & sound/basic channel is moritz von oswald and mark ernestus. they're not the same people. afaik basic channel have only played live about 3/4 times ever.... dunno if they have ever performed live as r&s. i'm guessing that maybe scion were just mixing r&s/bc tracks as they did on their recent mix album (scion arrange and process basic channel tracks -tresor) -ross. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-08-22 13:20neil@dreaming.orgOn Thu, 22 Aug 2002, -ross. wrote: > scion is ren? lowe and peter kuschnereit. they've don
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, -ross. wrote:
quoted 3 lines scion is ren? lowe and peter kuschnereit. they've done stuff before on chain> scion is ren? lowe and peter kuschnereit. they've done stuff before on chain > reaction (as vainquer, substance and scion of course). rhythm & sound/basic > channel is moritz von oswald and mark ernestus. they're not the same people.
this is true let me also add that rene is one of the founders of basic channel and chain reaction records and runs hardwax in germany an awesome record store and on line ordering service..
quoted 6 lines afaik basic channel have only played live about 3/4 times ever.... dunno if> > afaik basic channel have only played live about 3/4 times ever.... dunno if > they have ever performed live as r&s. i'm guessing that maybe scion were > just mixing r&s/bc tracks as they did on their recent mix album (scion > arrange and process basic channel tracks -tresor) >
I booked them in toronto back in may and scion were using live to remix r+S/bc tracks live the way they had it split up was pete sks substance was doing this part while rene processed tikimans voice it was nice, nothing really compared to what we expected as really all it was was tikiman toasting ontop of slight remixes of these tracks... eh not worth the asking price IMHO but to each thier own I enjoyed the show regardless as tikiman is quite the personality on stage... neil...
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2002-08-23 06:55philippe-petitso rather then being a compleatly arrogent person how about telling us what is true then.
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Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:55:36 +0200
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so rather then being a compleatly arrogent person how about telling us what is true then. since you seem to know so much mr abelton.... ;) neil... if I'm not wrong the people doing Hardwax are the ones behind Various Artists, so you are not so far... have a nice day - philippe | 0000 \\\\.. \\\\ __ http://www.bip-hop.com _---| 0000 \\\\..\\\\ contemporary electronica challenging the ears and the mind
2002-08-23 12:15Jeff Davisi thought that VA was thorsten profrocht (sorry for butchering the spelling); not sure tha
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Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:15:01 -0400
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i thought that VA was thorsten profrocht (sorry for butchering the spelling); not sure that he is still associated with hardwax. scion rocked it live when i was them in toronto in late 1998. still craving another substance record from PK. scent and relish are two of the most worn slabs in my crate........ respect, Jeff Davis fon: 216.266.6969 phlow@earthlink.net <mailto:phlow@earthlink.net> fax: 216.266.2360 cel: 216.533.6303 -----Original Message----- From: philippe-petit [mailto:philippe-petit@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:56 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org; zorn@ableton.com; zorn@ableton.com Subject: [idm] Re: scion so rather then being a compleatly arrogent person how about telling us what is true then. since you seem to know so much mr abelton.... ;) neil... if I'm not wrong the people doing Hardwax are the ones behind Various Artists, so you are not so far... have a nice day - philippe | 0000 \\\\.. \\\\ __ http://www.bip-hop.com _---| 0000 \\\\..\\\\ contemporary electronica challenging the ears and the mind --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org