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You know what it's like when people say they like X and are interested in suggestions of something just like it. You suggest Y and Z because they're sorta like X, being all angular and pointy. Then, invariably, someone suggests S because it's a letter, too, and you just wanna smack 'em, cuz it's a letter, but it's nothing like X. like if i said i really liked Proem and someone then suggested Phonem, because Phonem is really only remotely like Proem when you get right down to it. no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking Confield more and more... is there anything else like it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like Confield. i'm not really looking for just yer average sound collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i like about confield, which it may not be. maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit some of these other artists... but really - confield - is there anything else like it? ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 19 lines no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking

> no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking > Confield more and more... is there anything else like > it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, > like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like > Confield. > > i'm not really looking for just yer average sound > collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or > fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or > monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and > immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i > like about confield, which it may not be. > > maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more > the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit > some of these other artists... > > but really - confield - is there anything else like > it?

The first suggestion I'd make is Phthalocyanine. And also MFVS which is Phthalocyanine + Crank. You might also want to check out Crank's stuff, though I've only heard "Wanton Phenomena". I've also heard some Rook Vallade stuff that's got that improvisatory feel. Those acts generally have a rawer, less polished sound than Autechre, but I think there's a similar open ended feel to their work which is in line with "Confield".. Also check out Matmos, if you haven't already. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of the Year list failed to mention Confield - in fact it wasn't mentioned anywhere in anyone's thoughts (including the Electronica records of the year list). I know it hasn't found favour with a lot of people, but still. Adam, if you're looking for visceral I'd recommend anything between 70 and 75 by Miles Davis, particularly Dark Magus or On The Corner, otherwise what about Jungle circa 93/94. Some of the Oval stuff to my ears is a little reminiscent of Confield.

quoted 2 lines but really - confield - is there anything else like

> but really - confield - is there anything else like > it?

I guess this is why I love Confield... and the fact it seems to refuse to be consumed/assimilated in the way that their previous releases are susceptible to being. I wonder what Sean and Rob are up to now... what are they cooking up? All the best, Colin. np Jon Hassell, Rotterdam bootleg

quoted 52 lines From: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org>

> From: Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> > Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:16:25 -0800 (PST) > To: idm@hyperreal.org, idm-m@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [idm] is there anything else like it? > > You know what it's like when people say they like X > and are interested in suggestions of something just > like it. You suggest Y and Z because they're sorta > like X, being all angular and pointy. Then, > invariably, someone suggests S because it's a letter, > too, and you just wanna smack 'em, cuz it's a letter, > but it's nothing like X. > > like if i said i really liked Proem and someone then > suggested Phonem, because Phonem is really only > remotely like Proem when you get right down to it. > > no one likes to talk about it but i just keep liking > Confield more and more... is there anything else like > it? and I don't mean just anything remotely like it, > like earlier Autechre - even that isn't just like > Confield. > > i'm not really looking for just yer average sound > collage stuff like, er, i dunno, leafcutter john or > fennesz or electric company or vladislav delay or > monolake or whathaveyou. something visceral and > immediate is what i crave, if in fact that's what i > like about confield, which it may not be. > > maybe i don't know what i'm talking about (that's more > the norm with me, anyway), and maybe i need to revisit > some of these other artists... > > but really - confield - is there anything else like > it? > > > ===== > ..Adam > http://www.damek.org/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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--- Colin Buttimer <c.buttimer@mdx.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 7 lines I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of

> I was bemused to see that The Wire's 50 Records of > the Year list failed to > mention Confield - in fact it wasn't mentioned > anywhere in anyone's thoughts > (including the Electronica records of the year > list). I know it hasn't found > favour with a lot of people, but still.

I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a few issues ago, among their music picks near the back of the mag. They said something along the lines of it being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't like it. I thought that was funny... ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a

> I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a > few issues ago, among their music picks near the back > of the mag. They said something along the lines of it > being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't like > it. I thought that was funny...

Wired is right - when I put on 70sMiles/Autechre/etc my kids do exactly that, covering their ears and telling me to turn it off. Stuff they like is Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and 70s disco (Amy's four Gabriel two and a half). All the best, Colin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Colin Buttimer wrote:

quoted 10 lines I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a

> > I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine a > > few issues ago, among their music picks near the back > > of the mag. They said something along the lines of it > > being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't like > > it. I thought that was funny... > Wired is right - when I put on 70sMiles/Autechre/etc my kids do exactly > that, covering their ears and telling me to turn it off. Stuff they like is > Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and 70s disco (Amy's four Gabriel two > and a half). >

Funk and Disco are all about connecting to people's 'feel good' center in their brains. Stuff like Autechre is all about redefining and extending the concept of musical beauty; there's an intellectual component to what they do that is going to be lost on people of an age where they can't totally understand "Blues Clues." I love Autechre, and I love Funk and Disco. They have different purposes, both valid. I especially love stuff like Marumari that takes some of the warmth and human accesibility of the latter and combines it with the ambition of the former. When my kids were small my favorite bands were Husker Du, Sonic Youth, and Dinosaur Jr. Once, when Lucas was two, we were driving somewhere with Zen Arcade playing, and Lucas told me "Turn Off that Loud Monstery Music!" We were in agreement, however, on Kraftwerk and They Might Be Giants. On one trip to Chicago, all they'd listen to was "Computer World" and Weird Al's "Off the Deep End." Now that Lucas is 13 and Sean is 17, the shared tastes are more about Jimi Hendrix, Marvin Gaye, and pre-1970 Bob Dylan. Sean is all about Hip Hop as well, so we intersect on that, notably with a love for Atmosphere, and the Anticon crew. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

My Daughter is just over a year old (only walking for about a month) but absolutely LOVES music. I'll often play Arovane, BoC, Telefon TT, and the like. When I do, she'll scurry over to the stereo on her two shaky legs, stand in front of it pointing up to it... while swaying back and forth or bobbing her head to the music. It's a beautiful thing. At least I know she's already getting a great, quality start on her education. ;) (makes a dad proud!) -matT nashville.tn --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Here on the south side of the globe it's summer holidays, and I've been bush-bashing through our glorious country with my two offspring in the backseat. Laura is almost 13 and Christy (he's a boy) is coming on for 10. For the journey, I made a few compilations, and this is what proved most popular: Wamdue's King of my Castle (can we have that again, Mummy?) Dido - Hunter (that's for Laura) Offspring - Pretty Fly (my son's choice, uh...) Jamiroquai (anything and everything) Vintage Depeche Mode (Master & Servant era stuff, GREAT car music!) Adult (in small doses) Daft Punk Bob Marley Manu Chao These did NOT go down, and had to be skipped: Circulation - the colours stuff (too long) Aphex's Windowlicker Luomo Anything acid-jazzy (too noodly, gets lost in the bump 'n grind, maybe?) On 17 Jan 2002, at 9:33, Kent williams wrote:

quoted 2 lines Funk and Disco are all about connecting to people's 'feel good' center in

> Funk and Disco are all about connecting to people's 'feel good' center in > their brains.

Couldn't agree with you more. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Actually, I was chacking my issues of Wired last night to make sure I'd read them before putting them in the recycling bin, I noticed that the Autechre mention was in the December 2001 issue - they had guest reviewers for that issue, and the guy who picked Confield was from MTVi of all places. And actuall, I was wrong about what he said. He said it was a great album, alright - gave it high praise. But what he said about youngsters was that they'd think you were hip if you had it. Something along those lines. Now how could I get that wrong? He was like, "get it for the benefit of your grandkids" or something. But since I don't have the issue in front of me here at work, I'm probably skewing it wrong again. So forget everything I said and just stew on the whole MTVi thing. Or don't... --- Colin Buttimer <c.buttimer@mdx.ac.uk> wrote:

quoted 23 lines I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine

> > I just remembered, Confield was in Wired magazine > a > > few issues ago, among their music picks near the > back > > of the mag. They said something along the lines > of it > > being a great album, and that your kids wouldn't > like > > it. I thought that was funny... > Wired is right - when I put on 70sMiles/Autechre/etc > my kids do exactly > that, covering their ears and telling me to turn it > off. Stuff they like is > Sly and the Family Stone, James Brown and 70s disco > (Amy's four Gabriel two > and a half). > > All the best, > > Colin. > > >

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I would recommend a lot of the stuff on the planet mu label, such as Phthalocyanine (also responsible for the Phthalo label), Venetian Snares, maybe some Speedranch.... You might also check out some of the stuff on Tigerbeat6, such as Electric Company, maybe their 2CD comp.... none of these items particularly is all that similar to Otto's first CD (which I found entirely superior to its recent followup) but all share a similar interest in chaos and disorder, and quite a bit of noise to go with it. I would have to say that Otto's work is fairly distinct, and that Devine would be the first comparison I would probably make (especially "Lipswitch").

quoted 22 lines From: "Dr. Gozra Von Peebles" <gozravp@yahoo.com>

>From: "Dr. Gozra Von Peebles" <gozravp@yahoo.com> >To: vis-you <mguest@isdn.net>, "{\[--idm--\]}" <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [idm] Recommendation request one - otto von schirach >Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:54:01 -0800 (PST) > > >Who is similar to Otto von Schirach? I am primarily >interested in sound design here - the crispness of >8000bc. Complexity. Richard Devine is obviously >recalled: similar in sound production, but far more >technical and far less...."wet". Matmos' Chance to >Cut... also comes to mind in terms of sampling organic >sounds. But otto... > >I've mentioned before that I am very much possessed by >him and unfortunately joined this list a bit after >escalto frio came out, so perhaps I missed a bit of >relative discussion. >Thanks in advance. > > >gvp

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