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--- vis-you <mguest@isdn.net> wrote:

quoted 18 lines For those of you who have your own radio shows...

> For those of you who have your own radio shows... > > 1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much > the way you'd spin it in > a club... > > 2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same > way a normal radio's > programming plays out; where they don't have to be > the same style or tempo > to play next to one another? > > If I were to do such a show, I think I'd prefer the > former. Just to > highlight each artist's and tune's individuality. To > me, this would draw > attention to the artists being played over the DJ > playing them.

Do you mean "latter" instead of "former"? Because "latter" would refer to #2, which sounds more like what you're describing; I think number 2 draws more attention to individual artists rather than the person playing them - especially since with #1 they very rarely say anything about what the music is, which doesn't bring any attention to anybody! Number 2 is the way I would do a show if I did one, and the way I would prefer to hear them if I listened to them. The few times I've tried out an electronic/dance radio show (either on radio or one of those "internet radio shows"), they seem to do number one - just mix lots of stuff together like a club DJ or something. I hate not knowing what something new is (how am I supposed to buy it if I don't know? That's not promotion!). -Adam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i go with craig on this one. when i did a radio show, i tried to play similar tunes together. i'd play 2-3 tunes (from a "genre") in a row, and then announce them. especially if it was a tune i was excited about, i'd announce it both before and after i played it. hs At 09.52 -0500 01-07-30, vis-you wrote:

quoted 6 lines 1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much the way you'd spin it in

>1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much the way you'd spin it in >a club... > >2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same way a normal radio's >programming plays out; where they don't have to be the same style or tempo >to play next to one another?

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At 10:52 AM 7/30/01, vis-you wrote:

quoted 9 lines For those of you who have your own radio shows... (or, if you're like me and

>For those of you who have your own radio shows... (or, if you're like me and >wish you did) > >1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much the way you'd spin it in >a club... > >2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same way a normal radio's >programming plays out; where they don't have to be the same style or tempo >to play next to one another?

I'd say that my show falls somewhere in between. While I don't bother with beat matching and other club DJ stuff (partly 'cause most of what I play doesn't really work in that contaxt, and partly 'cause I suck at it!), I still try to put together sets that flow well and don't sound like a bunch if disconnected tracks just thrown together. I also make a point of mentioning the artist, release and label for every track I play. As someone else in this thread mentioned, I hate it when I'm listening to an electronic music show and hear a killer track in the mix, only to have the DJ not mention any of the stuff he or she played. Greg --- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

in defense of the former, on my show, i do a continuous mix, however, i try to stay as far away from dj tricks as possible. just smooth decently quick mixes. oh, and i also, unless something comes up, play a song in its (near)entirety with minimal overlap between tracks while still maintaining the feel of a club mix. at the end of each mix (approx 45-50 min) i'll list off the songs i played, with album info, etc. this is easier to do, however, when you're on a public radio station that isn't tied down to playing commercials every 5 min. my two cents... craig. . . aural|architecture . . techno|idm|microsound . . host|craig_s . . thursdays|11pm-2am . . 106.9 fm|dayton ohio . . webcast|listen.to/wwsu

quoted 45 lines From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>

>From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] for the IDM Radio DeeJay >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:02:52 -0700 (PDT) > >--- vis-you <mguest@isdn.net> wrote: > > For those of you who have your own radio shows... > > > > 1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much > > the way you'd spin it in > > a club... > > > > 2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same > > way a normal radio's > > programming plays out; where they don't have to be > > the same style or tempo > > to play next to one another? > > > > If I were to do such a show, I think I'd prefer the > > former. Just to > > highlight each artist's and tune's individuality. To > > me, this would draw > > attention to the artists being played over the DJ > > playing them. > >Do you mean "latter" instead of "former"? Because >"latter" would refer to #2, which sounds more like >what you're describing; I think number 2 draws more >attention to individual artists rather than the person >playing them - especially since with #1 they very >rarely say anything about what the music is, which >doesn't bring any attention to anybody! Number 2 is >the way I would do a show if I did one, and the way I >would prefer to hear them if I listened to them. > >The few times I've tried out an electronic/dance radio >show (either on radio or one of those "internet radio >shows"), they seem to do number one - just mix lots of >stuff together like a club DJ or something. I hate >not knowing what something new is (how am I supposed >to buy it if I don't know? That's not promotion!). > >-Adam > >

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I think theres validity to both styles. Even IDM is still, to some degree, rooted in dj culture. Alot of releases come out on vinyl. If people are trying to dance or rock out to the music, continuous mixes sound way better. But if you're trying to be informative, then the track to track approach is the much better way to go. I think both methods have a good place. - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "c | s" <w111cms@hotmail.com> To: <apiontek@yahoo.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [idm] for the IDM Radio DeeJay

quoted 8 lines in defense of the former,

> in defense of the former, > > on my show, i do a continuous mix, however, i try to stay as far away from > dj tricks as possible. just smooth decently quick mixes. oh, and i also, > unless something comes up, play a song in its (near)entirety with minimal > overlap between tracks while still maintaining the feel of a club mix. > > at the end of each mix (approx 45-50 min) i'll list off the songs i

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quoted 74 lines with album info, etc. this is easier to do, however, when you're on a

> with album info, etc. this is easier to do, however, when you're on a > public radio station that isn't tied down to playing commercials every 5 > min. > > my two cents... > > craig. > > > . . aural|architecture > . . techno|idm|microsound > . . host|craig_s > . . thursdays|11pm-2am > . . 106.9 fm|dayton ohio > . . webcast|listen.to/wwsu > > > > >From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] for the IDM Radio DeeJay > >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:02:52 -0700 (PDT) > > > >--- vis-you <mguest@isdn.net> wrote: > > > For those of you who have your own radio shows... > > > > > > 1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much > > > the way you'd spin it in > > > a club... > > > > > > 2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same > > > way a normal radio's > > > programming plays out; where they don't have to be > > > the same style or tempo > > > to play next to one another? > > > > > > If I were to do such a show, I think I'd prefer the > > > former. Just to > > > highlight each artist's and tune's individuality. To > > > me, this would draw > > > attention to the artists being played over the DJ > > > playing them. > > > >Do you mean "latter" instead of "former"? Because > >"latter" would refer to #2, which sounds more like > >what you're describing; I think number 2 draws more > >attention to individual artists rather than the person > >playing them - especially since with #1 they very > >rarely say anything about what the music is, which > >doesn't bring any attention to anybody! Number 2 is > >the way I would do a show if I did one, and the way I > >would prefer to hear them if I listened to them. > > > >The few times I've tried out an electronic/dance radio > >show (either on radio or one of those "internet radio > >shows"), they seem to do number one - just mix lots of > >stuff together like a club DJ or something. I hate > >not knowing what something new is (how am I supposed > >to buy it if I don't know? That's not promotion!). > > > >-Adam > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On Mon, 30 July 2001, vis-you wrote:

quoted 10 lines For those of you who have your own radio shows... (or, if you're like me and

> > For those of you who have your own radio shows... (or, if you're like me and > wish you did) > > 1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much the way you'd spin it in > a club... > > 2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same way a normal radio's > programming plays out; where they don't have to be the same style or tempo > to play next to one another?

hm, most of the time, i guess i think of the radio show as a way to practice for when i do play out at events, so it's mostly option 1. occasionally i just want to play some random cool/weird thing i just got, but i usually try to make it work with the other music i'm playing.

quoted 3 lines If I were to do such a show, I think I'd prefer the former. Just to

> If I were to do such a show, I think I'd prefer the former. Just to > highlight each artist's and tune's individuality. To me, this would draw > attention to the artists being played over the DJ playing them.

hm, it sounds like you meant the latter, not the former--to play each tune individually without trying to mix them..correct? i guess since the radio does that enough already, i don't really care about doing it on our show. however, one thing that i'd like to get working is a little widget to send the id3 tag of the cd track i'm playing into the stream so that people listening can see what i'm playing. one thing i do agree with you on is that it's about the music, not the dj. i got into spinning because i love the music, not because i wanted attention. some of the music coming out lately, and some of the older stuff i'm finding is just amazing...hurray for music! lately, i've been obsessing over: sense: a view from a vulnerable place (track 7,8, gorgeously sad) kettel: dreim (the whole thing, whee, idm steel drums) chris clarke: clarence park (track 9 oh my god insufferably happy!) -rachel (aka dj pie) -- "time can but make it easier to be wise / though now it seems impossible, and so / all that you need is patience." --yeats --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I have a web radio show two Fridays a month on StudioX.org called The DeepEnd. Seeing as I usually play mp3s I usually opt for the 2nd option. I do, however, like to get a mood or a vibe going with my sets and try not to jar the listener too much by throwing in totally contrasting songs. I usually don't announce the songs, but after hearing what you all have said about liking the song announce- ments, I think I will work that into my sets from now on. If you are interested in checking out my show, the next one is Aug 10, 8PM PST. You can also download the archived files. My last shows were July 13 and July 27. Drop me a line if you like what you are hearing! Cheers, Wendy aka Dj Ms.Fit -----Original Message----- From: c | s [mailto:w111cms@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:18 AM To: apiontek@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] for the IDM Radio DeeJay in defense of the former, on my show, i do a continuous mix, however, i try to stay as far away from dj tricks as possible. just smooth decently quick mixes. oh, and i also, unless something comes up, play a song in its (near)entirety with minimal overlap between tracks while still maintaining the feel of a club mix. at the end of each mix (approx 45-50 min) i'll list off the songs i played, with album info, etc. this is easier to do, however, when you're on a public radio station that isn't tied down to playing commercials every 5 min. my two cents... craig. . . aural|architecture . . techno|idm|microsound . . host|craig_s . . thursdays|11pm-2am . . 106.9 fm|dayton ohio . . webcast|listen.to/wwsu

quoted 45 lines From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>

>From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] for the IDM Radio DeeJay >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:02:52 -0700 (PDT) > >--- vis-you <mguest@isdn.net> wrote: > > For those of you who have your own radio shows... > > > > 1) Do you find that you try to mix your tunes much > > the way you'd spin it in > > a club... > > > > 2) ...or do you arrange the tunes in much the same > > way a normal radio's > > programming plays out; where they don't have to be > > the same style or tempo > > to play next to one another? > > > > If I were to do such a show, I think I'd prefer the > > former. Just to > > highlight each artist's and tune's individuality. To > > me, this would draw > > attention to the artists being played over the DJ > > playing them. > >Do you mean "latter" instead of "former"? Because >"latter" would refer to #2, which sounds more like >what you're describing; I think number 2 draws more >attention to individual artists rather than the person >playing them - especially since with #1 they very >rarely say anything about what the music is, which >doesn't bring any attention to anybody! Number 2 is >the way I would do a show if I did one, and the way I >would prefer to hear them if I listened to them. > >The few times I've tried out an electronic/dance radio >show (either on radio or one of those "internet radio >shows"), they seem to do number one - just mix lots of >stuff together like a club DJ or something. I hate >not knowing what something new is (how am I supposed >to buy it if I don't know? That's not promotion!). > >-Adam > >

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I guess i'll chime in on this one, as i think it's a pretty interesting topic that i don't normally discuss otherwise. I tend to play a wide variety of electronic music styles on audio::nimbus (radio) as well as milktronics (venue) and the last thing i'd want to be labelled as is a dj. i don't think that i have the technical trickery to mold the various and often random forms of electronics into a 2hour spot with beats colliding into each other. Most of the time i've noticed tracks that mix perfectly together, and that helps a whole lot. As far as promoting the music, i usually pop in after about 4 tracks on audio::nimbus to announce what i've played, where it can be purchased, the label it's on et cetera. I don't like to keep people hanging on what tracks have been played as i don't enjoy radio programs that do that to me. During a live venue set, i play a full 4 hour mix of a wide variety of material from random international labels, and i usually get the odd person walking up to me asking what the heck i just played. I remember that distinctly happening with a Lowfish track from "Eliminator". Not sure if this helps the topic or deters from it, but that's my perspective. I'd rather be known for playing good quality tracks rather being labelled as a deejay.. Pietro. || audio::nimbus :: audionimbus@home.com .. .. .. || cjam :: 91.5 fm :: saturdays :: mid - 2am :: est .. .. .. || web :: www.egroups.com/group/audionimbus .. .. .. || 9745 lynngrove cr., windsor, ont., n8r 1b8, ca. .. .. .. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org