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[idm] hip hop influence ruins electronic music as a genre?

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2001-07-01 19:27Atom [idm] hip hop influence ruins electronic music as a genre?
2001-07-02 18:29o O Re: [idm] hip hop influence ruins electronic music as a genre?
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2001-07-01 19:27AtomHi, well first of all, most hip hop/rap samples other "classic" music, but that doesn't me
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Hi, well first of all, most hip hop/rap samples other "classic" music, but that doesn't mean it can't be good in itself- Now on the one hand you generalize about rap so I'm responding to that. On the other hand you mentioned "today's rap" so THEN I'm not sure if you meant all rap music or mostly the newer stuff? Anyway ... Public Enemy, De La Soul, Grandmaster Flash, um Beastie Boys? just to name a few, all don't fit your description. You want somebody more current or newer on the scene ... I don't really know as much about that but there are a few. And I think the older 80s and early 90s hip hop artists continue to be an influence (on some of those making IDM ).
quoted 2 lines and if you think>and if you think >electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself
will be ruined. Personally I think electronic artists should (and will) look to and be influenced by whatever they find compelling. Ruin the entire genre of electronic music? or even just IDM? I don't think anyone's in danger. Atom
quoted 18 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap>Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or that >don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the artist >is? > >I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and >anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to >'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive >drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. > >I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of >creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think >electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself >will be ruined. > >Just my two cents :) > >- Dan J.
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2001-07-02 18:29o Oprince paul, dj premier, timbaland, eric b and rakim, nas, epmd, dr dre, m.o.p, pete rock
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