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Sorry for additional post on Autechre which doesn't really add to things but I have to say that 'uviol' is one of the best tracks I've heard in a while. I bought that Confield at the same time as a Metamatics 'Dope for the Robot' and Goldfrapp's 'Felt Mountain' and haven't really given either of the two a listen because I've been listening to this track on repeat. I haven't even really listened to the other tracks on the album. I missed the LA show but I think a lot of the people who didn't like Autechre live were probably those doped out ravers who try to dance to everything without really listening to it. Once I was at a rave and the speakers blew out and there were still ravers lined up against the (silent) speakers bopping their heads. But that is just my opinion. -David [whatup Gilly,Zimbo,Technoir, et. al.] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 4 lines I missed the LA show but I think a lot of the people who didn't like

> >I missed the LA show but I think a lot of the people who didn't like >Autechre live were probably those doped out ravers who try to dance to >everything without really listening to it.

I disagree. That type, if any real individuals actually live up to the stereotype you have presented, would generally not be posting reviews to the IDM list.

quoted 3 lines Once I was at a rave and the

>Once I was at a rave and the >speakers blew out and there were still ravers lined up against the (silent) >speakers bopping their heads.

Heh. At the Portland AE show there was this d00d who danced in between sets. He also danced to Daniel Mensch...a sort of dark ambient artist. Quite funny and entertaining if you ask me.

quoted 1 line But that is just my opinion.

>But that is just my opinion.

Goes without saying. Ebola np: Labradford _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 03:50 AM 6/7/2001 +0000, Ebola 3 wrote:

quoted 7 lines I missed the LA show but I think a lot of the people who didn't like

>>I missed the LA show but I think a lot of the people who didn't like >>Autechre live were probably those doped out ravers who try to dance to >>everything without really listening to it. > >I disagree. That type, if any real individuals actually live up to the >stereotype you have presented, would generally not be posting reviews to >the IDM list.

oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, you would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks and doing that ridiculous hand-flailing-i-have-no-rythym-and-i-look-outrageously-stupid dance. nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable, tangible beat for more than one minute at a time. you would have witnessed these atrocities and more, my friend. these horrible souls do exist, and oh, they are not a pretty sight. - wells oliver || wells@submute.net "I wouldn't know because I don't read, but I'll tell you one thing for sure: I wouldn't trust no words written down on no piece of paper especially from no Dickinson out in the town of Machine. You're just as likely to find your own grave." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

"you'll dance to anything...." glad i was in detroit when the DC show was going on. On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, wells wrote:

quoted 21 lines oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, you

> oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, you > would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks and > doing that ridiculous > hand-flailing-i-have-no-rythym-and-i-look-outrageously-stupid dance. > nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable, tangible > beat for more than one minute at a time. you would have witnessed these > atrocities and more, my friend. > > these horrible souls do exist, and oh, they are not a pretty sight. > - wells oliver || wells@submute.net > "I wouldn't know because I don't read, but > I'll tell you one thing for sure: I wouldn't > trust no words written down on no piece of paper > especially from no Dickinson out in the town of Machine. > You're just as likely to find your own grave." > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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--- wells <wells@submute.net> wrote:

quoted 23 lines At 03:50 AM 6/7/2001 +0000, Ebola 3 wrote:

> At 03:50 AM 6/7/2001 +0000, Ebola 3 wrote: > > > >>I missed the LA show but I think a lot of the people who didn't like > >>Autechre live were probably those doped out ravers who try to dance to > >>everything without really listening to it. > > > >I disagree. That type, if any real individuals actually live up to the > > >stereotype you have presented, would generally not be posting reviews > to > >the IDM list. > > oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, > you > would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks > and > doing that ridiculous > hand-flailing-i-have-no-rythym-and-i-look-outrageously-stupid dance. > nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable, tangible > > beat for more than one minute at a time. you would have witnessed these > atrocities and more, my friend.

Yeah, what were those idiots thinking? Trying to appreciate "intelligent" music and all, when they should have been out somewhere listening to trance. One positive aspect of ravers trying to expand their minds by going to such Intelligent shows (intelligent: where the music is randomly generated - sounds pretty smart to me!), is that Intelligent people you like have somebody to compare yourself to. I mean without stupid ass people like that, how would you even know? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, you

> >oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, you >would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks and >doing that ridiculous >hand-flailing-i-have-no-rythym-and-i-look-outrageously-stupid dance.

Heh...But did they go home and post to the IDM-list? Anyway, this sounds a lot like my attempts at dancing, minus the glowsticks. I was born into a lack of rhythm, so I'll have to embrace it.

quoted 2 lines nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable, tangible

>nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable, tangible >beat for more than one minute at a time

That's funny. At the Portland show, the beat-work was fairly regular. Ebola np: Radiohead _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of people afraid to move... its scrutiny like this that makes people self-conscious. I say, fuck it. If you want to flail around with your glow sticks or whatever else you got, as long as you are losing yourself in the music, that's all that matters. I cant believe how high school popularity contest this is. "Oh my god, Becky, laike can you believe that he is doing that to this music! And laike look at his outfit! Those baggy pants are so nineteen ninetees! He is so not cool like us." I say, if you chill out a bit and dont worry so much about other people, you might actually have a better time. I am pretty sure I am going to be dancing my ass off to Phoenicia in LA tonight and I might just wear some baggy pants and glitter just to annoy some people ;) I hate pretentiousness... so I apologize for the rant.

quoted 36 lines From: "Ebola 3" <andylists@hotmail.com>

>From: "Ebola 3" <andylists@hotmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Even Robots Can Love [Autechre] >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:33:23 -0000 > > > > > >> >>oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show, you >>would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks and >>doing that ridiculous >>hand-flailing-i-have-no-rythym-and-i-look-outrageously-stupid dance. > >Heh...But did they go home and post to the IDM-list? >Anyway, this sounds a lot like my attempts at dancing, minus the >glowsticks. > I was born into a lack of rhythm, so I'll have to embrace it. > > >>nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable, tangible >>beat for more than one minute at a time > >That's funny. At the Portland show, the beat-work was fairly regular. > >Ebola >np: Radiohead >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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At 12:49 PM 6/7/2001 -0700, Yulia Matusov wrote:

quoted 1 line Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of people afraid to mov

>Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of people afraid to move... its scrutiny like this that makes people self-conscious. I say, fuck it. If you want to flail around with your glow sticks or whatever else you got, as long as you are losing yourself in the music, that's all that matters. I cant believe how high school popularity contest this is.

I don't think it's the scrutiny, it's just that many people are still convinced that standing with your arms crossed in an Aphex shirt is the way to show how clever you are and thus get m.a.d.d. chicx0rz. High school is a pretty natural comparison. Oh well, it's not like being criticized for having fun by a smelly guy with a beard and MASK 200 in his backpack is that emotionally damaging. Hearing crazy metal getting spun at Autechre and then looking at a crowd of guys who think they're at a Yanni show was sort of sad.

quoted 1 line "Oh my god, Becky, laike can you believe that he is doing that to this music! And lai

>"Oh my god, Becky, laike can you believe that he is doing that to this music! And laike look at his outfit! Those baggy pants are so nineteen ninetees! He is so not cool like us."

That's a pretty good impression of most IDM shows at the El Rey. Eventually people usually catch on and get over their 'irony will make me hip! this time for sure!' phase.

quoted 3 lines I say, if you chill out a bit and dont worry so much about other people, you might actuall

>I say, if you chill out a bit and dont worry so much about other people, you might actually have a better time. > >I am pretty sure I am going to be dancing my ass off to Phoenicia in LA tonight and I might just wear some baggy pants and glitter just to annoy some people ;) I hate pretentiousness... so I apologize for the rant.

If I make it to Phoenicia I'll totally bring you a bead bracelet. PLUR! ---- "There is no gang of 'intelligent techno' freaks here who break showroom windows to steal pocket calculators." - Jouni Alkio http://component.robotcore.net jeff@spof.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'd much prefer people flailing around like no-one cared than talk to old friends throughout shows. You'd think some of these events were high school reunions. It was somewhat disheartening to go to the last 3 good shows here in mpls, only to see basically the same people show up, be surprised to see each other, talk throughout the show, then leave early. Probably off to chat it up at *cough*Perkins*cough* cheers, /derek On 7 Jun 2001, Yulia Matusov wrote:

quoted 1 line Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of

> Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of

people

quoted 1 line afraid to move... its scrutiny like this that makes people

> afraid to move... its scrutiny like this that makes people

self-conscious. I

quoted 1 line say, fuck it. If you want to flail around with your glow sticks or

> say, fuck it. If you want to flail around with your glow sticks or

whatever

quoted 1 line else you got, as long as you are losing yourself in the music, that's all

> else you got, as long as you are losing yourself in the music, that's all

quoted 6 lines that matters. I cant believe how high school popularity contest this is.

> that matters. I cant believe how high school popularity contest this is. > "Oh my god, Becky, laike can you believe that he is doing that to this > music! And laike look at his outfit! Those baggy pants are so nineteen > ninetees! He is so not cool like us." > > I say, if you chill out a bit and dont worry so much about other people,

you

quoted 18 lines might actually have a better time.

> might actually have a better time. > > I am pretty sure I am going to be dancing my ass off to Phoenicia in LA > tonight and I might just wear some baggy pants and glitter just to annoy > some people ;) I hate pretentiousness... so I apologize for the rant. > > > >From: "Ebola 3" <andylists@hotmail.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] Even Robots Can Love [Autechre] > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:33:23 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >>oh my, do they ever. had you attended the washington DC autechre show,

you

quoted 1 line would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks

> >>would have witnessed these foul, mindless twats, flautning glow sticks

and

quoted 10 lines doing that ridiculous

> >>doing that ridiculous > >>hand-flailing-i-have-no-rythym-and-i-look-outrageously-stupid dance. > > > >Heh...But did they go home and post to the IDM-list? > >Anyway, this sounds a lot like my attempts at dancing, minus the > >glowsticks. > > I was born into a lack of rhythm, so I'll have to embrace it. > > > > > >>nevermind that it was autechre and there wasn't a recognizable,

tangible

quoted 24 lines beat for more than one minute at a time

> >>beat for more than one minute at a time > > > >That's funny. At the Portland show, the beat-work was fairly regular. > > > >Ebola > >np: Radiohead > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Glad to say that, at least at the Portland show, people were dancing. Even to noise. Ebola (contributing to meaningless list traffic) np: Plaid

quoted 15 lines From: "Yulia Matusov" <ulia5@hotmail.com>

>From: "Yulia Matusov" <ulia5@hotmail.com> >To: andylists@hotmail.com, idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Even Robots Can Love [Autechre] >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:49:40 -0700 > >Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of >people afraid to move... its scrutiny like this that makes people >self-conscious. I say, fuck it. If you want to flail around with your glow >sticks or whatever else you got, as long as you are losing yourself in the >music, that's all that matters. I cant believe how high school popularity >contest this is. >"Oh my god, Becky, laike can you believe that he is doing that to this >music! And laike look at his outfit! Those baggy pants are so nineteen >ninetees! He is so not cool like us." >

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what's the matter with gyrating aimlessly to whatever makes you feel like doing so? there's a reason electronic music is not just made by the white coated goons of academia any more. if your idea of having fun at a show (weather it be even parker or arovane) is moving your butt i say go for it! chris v. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines what's the matter with gyrating aimlessly to whatever makes you feel >like

>what's the matter with gyrating aimlessly to whatever makes you feel >like >doing so? there's a reason electronic music is not just made by >the white >coated goons of academia any more. if your idea of having fun >at a show >(weather it be even parker or arovane) is moving your butt i >say go for >it!

quoted 1 line chris v.

>chris v.

Speaking of white-coated lab goons of academia, can anyone point me towards some of the more exciting music makers in the electronic-academic area today. (I'm fairly familiar with older ones, but i was wondering what it sounds like now...) David _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 3 lines From: "Hew Maxwell" <hewtwit@hotmail.com>

>From: "Hew Maxwell" <hewtwit@hotmail.com> > >You're all dicks for judging people just cos they're pillheads.

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Yulia Matusov wrote:

quoted 5 lines Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of people

> Oh my god... no wonder IDM shows always tend to consist of a bunch of people > afraid to move... its scrutiny like this that makes people self-conscious. I > say, fuck it. If you want to flail around with your glow sticks or whatever > else you got, as long as you are losing yourself in the music, that's all > that matters.

I'm with you...dancing is fun! Why not enjoy it? And I like dancing to more abstract stuff like Autechre...more room for rhythmic interpretation... -- John von Seggern DJ/producer Digital Cutup Lounge Hong Kong http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org