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2001-06-01 02:21Sebastian Chedal RE: [idm] From another list I'm on...
2001-06-01 03:26philippe petit [idm] From another list I'm on... // "tastes are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink"
└─ 2001-06-01 03:49Sebastian Chedal RE: [idm] From another list I'm on... // "tastes are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink"
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2001-06-01 02:21Sebastian ChedalNo, i must say that all i can muster is from my own brain. the art history classes i had,
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No, i must say that all i can muster is from my own brain. the art history classes i had, and a bit of common sense. I think the thing to realize is that it (music and our relationship with it) is all happening on a small local scale- and then translated onto a much larger scale (via the press, distributions etc.) but much like your kinder garden games of "telephone"; a lot of the original meanings are distorted. which is ok. it's like any art. each person has his own interpretation. and cultures change things too. In Holland the IDM scene may be seen as an intellectual excursive. And in SF it may be seen as a fringe form of consciousness [hipyesque] expression... both are right. It is all dependant on where you are coming from. [these examples are just pure fiction i just made up, so don't think i meant that] the number one influences in today's [electronic] music, IMO is: technology -- and what it offers us in terms of tools, it's our evolution. And for most of us, we are in the back seat simply using, manipulating what is on offer -- followed by personal influences/ideals -- which may or may not be influenced by anything from past music, present politics, religion, drugs or just about anything-- So, even though techno may have come from Detroit. I've never been there. Nor does that kind of music interest me. My influences are closer to me. As they usually are for most people. It all strings together though- as my influence had another influence which in turn may [or may not] have been from Detroit... popular opinion... i.e. what is "in", where and what is "not"... what makes a good song, what is "in it's time" behind it's time or ahead [and there fore not accepted]. Even for a scene that stresses being 'ahead' of it's time, certain things can still be too left or right from the new center. In IDM a few years ago, if some unknown artist started doing evolving random beats with record clicks and pops, no one might have paid any attention, but the time was ripe for it in our scene. IDM is a scene just like any other. We are not "popular" and some of us even cringe at the idea of being "pop"... but WHY? It's this fear of being "normal" of not being unique. Once you stop having the "fear" of being unique- but just realize that you ARE... then, you will start to make unique music... [sorry if I sound like an Indian hippy]. I think the one exception [and there are always many exceptions] is: GOOD music... it tends to shine through at any time... and it is hard to find. I'd say only 2% of all the music in ANY scene is good... but that's the music we all look for. What is "GOOD" music? haha... For some people those three might not be in that order. Obviously, this is my order of importance. And I'll leave it up to you to decide in what order they are in for you. See? It's all personal. Look, in the end all the academic writing isn't going to help you. It's music. It's you. You can argue any point ad infinitum (really, you can!). It's supposed to make you feel happy; or at least "feel". Heck, even sad music makes you feel happy to be sad -- for those people, they want that feeling... find out why you make, or like listening to music [if you even need to], and then just do it. stop thinkin' and start living... it's a short trip. =)))) With kind, Sebastian.
quoted 2 lines thanks a lot. u'r a great.>thanks a lot. u'r a great. >do u know any academic writting/source about the sampling technology, on
how it has influenced >today's music? Any resource for the electronic music as a whole, will be greatly appreciated,
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2001-06-01 03:26philippe petit> I think the one exception [and there are always many > exceptions] is: GOOD music... it
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[idm] From another list I'm on... // "tastes are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink"
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quoted 5 lines I think the one exception [and there are always many> I think the one exception [and there are always many > exceptions] is: GOOD music... it tends to shine through at any time... and > it is hard to find. I'd say only 2% of all the music in ANY scene is good... > but that's the music we all look for. What is "GOOD" music? haha... >
well 2% !?! I guess I couldd use an old adagio : "tastes are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink" philippe ************************************************************** http://www.bip-hop.com unconventional sound adventures, adventurous & creative electronica... ************************************************************** BiP-HOp Generation v. 3 [bleep 05] _____June 2001 14 exclusive songs, 77 minutes of music in a 6 page Digipack including a booklet w/ infos on each musician : NEOTROPIC / BOVINE LIFE / PIMMON / ZONK'T / ATAU TANAKA / NOVEL 23 SPACEHADS and MAX EASTLEY : the time of the ancient astronaut [bleep 04]____May 2001 A world of high opera and tipsy beats that then cascades with a metallic pounding. Haunting trumpet melodies over soft drones and textures sets the mood. The music takes on cinematic proportions as the terrain unfolds. Interstellar landscapes are revealed. MAX EASTLEY plays The Arc. A nine foot long mono chord. One string stretched over wood and played with a bow or glass rods. The pitch is changed by flexing the wood. The string can also be shortened with clips. It is then fed into electronic effects. The SPACEHEADS is a duo mixing trumpet and electronics with drums and percussion. Plaintive trumpet calls are looped across pulsing beats that propel us into sheets of metal crashing and vibrating through tiny pick ups cranked to the full and then spun into electronic webs.
2001-06-01 03:49Sebastian Chedal~>I'd say only 2% of all the music in ANY ~scene is good... ~> but that's the music we all
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RE: [idm] From another list I'm on... // "tastes are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink"
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~>I'd say only 2% of all the music in ANY ~scene is good... ~> but that's the music we all look for. What is "GOOD" music? haha... ~> ~ ~well 2% !?! I guess I couldd use an old adagio : ~"tastes are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink" ~philippe not to a dog... =) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org