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2000-10-16 20:12brian albers Re: [idm] earplugs
└─ 2000-10-16 20:53Wendy K Re: [idm] earplugs
2000-10-17 00:28[idm] Re : [idm] earplugs
└─ 2000-10-17 02:46Gil Yaker Re: [idm] Re : [idm] earplugs
2000-10-17 01:29Poly_gon Re: [idm] earplugs
2001-05-05 07:33Kurt Hoffman [idm] Autechre at Bowery Ballroom
├─ 2001-05-07 06:23activity@activaire [idm] Autechre/NYC May4/ Princeton May6
│ ├─ 2001-05-07 03:55Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] Autechre/NYC May4/ Princeton May6
│ └─ 2001-05-07 14:13Kurt Hoffman [idm] Re: Autechre/NYC
└─ 2001-05-07 21:56R. Lim Re: [idm] Autechre at Bowery Ballroom
├─ 2001-05-07 22:37Brian M. Cass [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-07 22:47j snod Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-07 22:52zimbo Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-07 22:53Howard Shih Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ └─ 2001-05-07 23:36Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ ├─ 2001-05-07 23:56EggyToast Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ └─ 2001-05-08 01:06Jeff/Ninja Tune Re: [idm] earplugs
│ ├─ 2001-05-07 23:29Brian MacDonald Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ └─ 2001-05-07 23:57Justin Lovero Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ └─ 2001-05-08 23:12R. Lim [idm] deef
│ └─ 2001-05-08 03:26Lander Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-08 03:29zimbo Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-08 05:38Bill Wright Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ └─ 2001-05-08 18:14Lander Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ └─ 2001-05-11 08:28The Chisa Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-11 08:49Peter Schrock Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ └─ 2001-05-11 12:07Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ ├─ 2001-05-11 13:15EggyToast Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ │ └─ 2001-05-11 16:29pink RE: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
│ └─ 2001-05-11 18:40butt chowder Re: [idm] sex, drugs and Autechre
├─ 2001-05-08 01:29activity@activaire RE: [idm] Autechre at Bowery Ballroom
└─ 2001-05-11 08:22The Chisa Re: [idm] Autechre at Bowery Ballroom
2001-05-08 04:57Kurt Hoffman [idm] earplugs
2001-05-08 23:07[idm] earplugs
└─ 2001-05-08 22:18atomly Re: [idm] earplugs
└─ 2001-05-08 22:26Shawn Hatfield Re: [idm] earplugs
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2000-10-16 20:12brian albers> >i am curious.. (in a totally non-cynical way) what are the specs for good >ear plugs? h
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quoted 4 lines i am curious.. (in a totally non-cynical way) what are the specs for good> >i am curious.. (in a totally non-cynical way) what are the specs for good >ear plugs? how much do they cost and who makes them? >
Any of the squishy foam ones work fairly well. The most important "spec" for earplugs is the db rating. 25 to 30 db is what I use. You can find them anywhere- drug stores, hardware stores. If you would rather go professional, try www.howardleight.com (not sure of spelling, might be www.howardlight.com) And to take this thing one step further...I don't even go out without ear plugs- shows, bars, sports, movies. It probably has something to do with the fact that I'd like to still be able to hear in the future. The only time I don't use them is when I'm the one controlling the volume. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-16 20:53Wendy Kok, there's a tinitus institute and a website, a newsletter, but i dont have the url to ha
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ok, there's a tinitus institute and a website, a newsletter, but i dont have the url to hand - i think they're based in san fran and came out of what was happening to rock musicians and metalheads, but it's basically about educating musicians, esp amplified ones about taking care of their ears so they dont lose their hearing. cant tell you how many gigs i've been to where the sound man at the mixing board had ear plugs in to hear better.... At 8:12 pm +0000 16/10/00, brian albers wrote:
quoted 15 lines i am curious.. (in a totally non-cynical way) what are the specs for good>>i am curious.. (in a totally non-cynical way) what are the specs for good >>ear plugs? how much do they cost and who makes them? >> > >Any of the squishy foam ones work fairly well. The most important >"spec" for earplugs is the db rating. 25 to 30 db is what I use. You >can find them anywhere- drug stores, hardware stores. If you would >rather go professional, try www.howardleight.com (not sure of >spelling, might be www.howardlight.com) > >And to take this thing one step further...I don't even go out >without ear plugs- shows, bars, sports, movies. It probably has >something to do with the fact that I'd like to still be able to hear >in the future. The only time I don't use them is when I'm the one >controlling the volume.
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2000-10-17 00:28clerc2@pe.netI've been wearing earplugs to shows, clubs, and raves for at least eight years now - if I
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I've been wearing earplugs to shows, clubs, and raves for at least eight years now - if I hadn't I'm sure that I'd have lots of hearing loss. I grew up at a couple of schools for the dead, so I understand how neato it is to truly hear things - don't throw it away if, say, you like music or something. Flea from red hot cichlisuite peppers has got horrible tinnitus also, I've read in a few interviews. He's not too big a fan of it. As for which ones are good, I really like my Hearos. They're squishy foam, really comfortable, and come in a little holster you can put on your keychain or just keep in your pocket. They make a few different kinds, I use the "Rock and Roll" ones now, since they're washable and reusable. The other ones are a little cheaper, but get dirtier far quicker and you shouldn't wash them. The only downside of these is that they glow under blacklight, so you get funny stares from raver kiddies or people who don't go out much, like the girl in front of me at the Viper Room Funkstorung show who had never seen someone use earplugs before (it was fairly clear that she wasn't there for the music, if you know what I mean). I turned around and there were 4 people using a different kind of glow-in-the-dark ones, we probably made quite a sight! Just don't get any wax ones, they get runny and gooey and stop working really well. Everyone I know only makes that mistake once.... The sticker on my Hearos holster says that they have a website, www.hearos.com , so maybe you'd wanna check them out. You can pick these up at Tower Records, or probably just about any musician store like Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc. One last thing - sound people at shows/clubs/etc. are really sorry, for the most part. After working in the dorms at UCR for a couple years I seriously could do a better job than most of them, so there's not way in hell I'll trust my hearing over to one of those fools for a night. The Plug Research/Press Play night was a welcome exception to this rule, however - I went without earplugs for about 2/3rds of the night, until they got far enough in the "we'll keep turning up the sound" game that it was just too loud for comfort. It still sounded quite nice, though - thanks if you're reading this! Cheers, Ryan p.s. Standing absolutely still at shows does bug me, though, even though I understand that not everyone is a dancin' fool like myself. How could you stay still during Farben's or Pole's set? I don't comprehend!! ------------ Any of the squishy foam ones work fairly well. The most important "spec" for earplugs is the db rating. 25 to 30 db is what I use. You can find them anywhere- drug stores, hardware stores. If you would rather go professional, try www.howardleight.com (not sure of spelling, might be www.howardlight.com) And to take this thing one step further...I don't even go out without ear plugs- shows, bars, sports, movies. It probably has something to do with the fact that I'd like to still be able to hear in the future. The only time I don't use them is when I'm the one controlling the volume. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-17 02:46Gil Yakerword. I think the first time I went to a club when they distorted their soundsystem and my
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word. I think the first time I went to a club when they distorted their soundsystem and my ears were ringing for a day or two afterwards scared the hell out of me. Been pretty much wearing plugs ever since. I like those foam ones that if you forget you left in your pants, they come out very clean from the wash. There was some party I went to not too long ago where some kid saw I had plugs in and was like "don't you like the music? obviously if you are blocking the sound then you don't like what you are hearing..." I didn't know what to say at that point. :) -Gil -> so what does everyone think of Jeff Mills' Metropolis? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-17 01:29Poly_gonGood earplugs are about 80 bucks (CAN.) and up.. they are custom fitted molded silicone an
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Good earplugs are about 80 bucks (CAN.) and up.. they are custom fitted molded silicone and some have removable/adjustable cores for different noise level blocking. If you can't stand the big foam orange ones... and let's face it they work just a bit too well for concert music levels (certain acts excepted... Pan-sonic for ex.)... then what I've tried with some success are the disposable silicone ones, normally used for swimming. More adjustable, yet still effective. Cheers, polygon BTW: the above is not a professional opinion... nor that of a trained medical officer. ________________________________________________________ 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-05 07:33Kurt Hoffmanjust back from seeing Autechre at Bowery Ballroom, NYC. Rob Hall, the tedious opener, chas
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just back from seeing Autechre at Bowery Ballroom, NYC. Rob Hall, the tedious opener, chased the crowd downstairs for a few drinks. Then Autechre came out and played some pretty good (and occasionally great) music, but they never managed to electrify the crowd, which wound up talking loudly through most of the set (one could construe that to mean that the music wasn't loud enough, I suppose). After a couple of things with a surprisingly straightforward techno underpinning, they settled into their patented random time-signiture onslaught. there were too many songs of similar character and intensity -- drum heavy, uptempo. it was easy to glaze over. The few times the crowd roused to cheers happened at a couple of points where they finally switched to a slower groove. nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on, more riches than one could keep up with at times. no one does it quite like them, despite routine allegations to the contrary. would have been happier closing my eyes in a more comfortable and intimate space than Bowery Ballroom, but what the hell. k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-07 06:23activity@activaireAutechre is amazing, and I'm not just being a die hard fan. After hearing the show on Frid
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Autechre is amazing, and I'm not just being a die hard fan. After hearing the show on Friday, I went back and listened to Amber- I find that it sounds simple now. I think there is a phenomenon that happens with their music- it can either sound orderd, wiht layers building upon layers, or they can sound very chatoic. I've been to shows that sounded chaotic to me, and very clear to other people. The show on Friday was very clear to me, and chaotic to some other people I was with. You have to pay attention and not miss the hook- if you are listening then you can fall into the fold and hear apparent and playful patterns. The show on Friday was dark, and moody, and tight as hell. Rob Hall is one of the smoothest dj's ever, and his label is amazing. Mad props. Russell Haswell's set on Friday was simply obnoxious, to the point of making me dizzy-his set today at Princton was a bit more ordered- but he managed to blow away the other cover bands playing on the neighboring lawns with brazen abstract noise. That was awesome- everyone from the neighboring show was turned around as if to say "what the fuck"- as their cover band struggled to compete fort heir attention. Everyone was riveted to the meteor shower of electronica. So funny! Autechre rules- if you can't hear it- then you are missing the point. You should just leave, and come back later. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Hoffman [mailto:supine@bway.net] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:33 AM To: IDM List Subject: [idm] Autechre at Bowery Ballroom just back from seeing Autechre at Bowery Ballroom, NYC. Rob Hall, the tedious opener, chased the crowd downstairs for a few drinks. Then Autechre came out and played some pretty good (and occasionally great) music, but they never managed to electrify the crowd, which wound up talking loudly through most of the set (one could construe that to mean that the music wasn't loud enough, I suppose). After a couple of things with a surprisingly straightforward techno underpinning, they settled into their patented random time-signiture onslaught. there were too many songs of similar character and intensity -- drum heavy, uptempo. it was easy to glaze over. The few times the crowd roused to cheers happened at a couple of points where they finally switched to a slower groove. nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on, more riches than one could keep up with at times. no one does it quite like them, despite routine allegations to the contrary. would have been happier closing my eyes in a more comfortable and intimate space than Bowery Ballroom, but what the hell. k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-07 03:55Brian M. Cass" After hearing the show on Friday, I went back and listened to Amber- I find that it soun
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" After hearing the show on Friday, I went back and listened to Amber- I find that it sounds simple now." amen sean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-07 14:13Kurt Hoffman>last saturday I wrote: >>Rob Hall, the tedious opener, chased the crowd downstairs for a
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quoted 3 lines last saturday I wrote:>last saturday I wrote: >>Rob Hall, the tedious opener, chased the crowd downstairs for a few >drinks.
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2001-05-07 21:56R. LimOn Sat, 5 May 2001, Kurt Hoffman wrote: > nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was
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quoted 5 lines nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on,> nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on, > more riches than one could keep up with at times. no one does it > quite like them, despite routine allegations to the contrary. would > have been happier closing my eyes in a more comfortable and intimate > space than Bowery Ballroom, but what the hell.
Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups). Between this and being continuously jostled/stepped on/poured beer upon made it sort of difficult to follow the boys once they cut the moorings loose and started to navigate through more oblique territory. The early part of the set did pretty much affirm their reputation as rhythmic virtuosoes & I imagine that the latter part was equally rewarding, especially to those who possess the Boulezesque ability to comprehend the most difficult music in one go. Unfortunately, I did not rank among their number that night. By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in full-on suburban dad mode) checked out an hour into the set. This means that we're much smarter than him, right? -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-07 22:37Brian M. CassI'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of questions. Would
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I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because they're kinda silly and uncomfortable. Also, does the El Rey have a bar? Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? Perhaps a pleasant campus to explore? Being LA I don't suppose it would be wise to stroll about a park in the middle of the night. PEN EXPERS kicks ass!!!! quick review Meat Beat Manifesto - Actual Sounds and voices: I don't know if you could call this idm, but its kind of a fun cd. I'm not much for big beat which this is a little bit , but this is also kind of jazzy. I don't think there are enough quality tracks that are actual full blown tracks. They often feel unfinished. Quality, but not something that has enough to offer to distract me from Confield, and not fun enough to distract me from stuff like Clarence Park and Agony. It might sound like I'm dissing this cd, but I really apreciate the jazz on it. Side note: Its on Reznor's Nothing Label, which is nice, along with Autechre, Squarepusher, and overplaid. Oh, and anyone know where that acid again clip comes from? Orb also used it on the Little Fluffy Cloud track. 3/5 LENTIC CATACHRESIS kicks ass!!!! "what are you, some kind of machine?" http://mirror.yellow5.com/archive/index52.html On Mon, 7 May 2001, R. Lim wrote:
quoted 32 lines On Sat, 5 May 2001, Kurt Hoffman wrote:> On Sat, 5 May 2001, Kurt Hoffman wrote: > > > nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on, > > more riches than one could keep up with at times. no one does it > > quite like them, despite routine allegations to the contrary. would > > have been happier closing my eyes in a more comfortable and intimate > > space than Bowery Ballroom, but what the hell. > > Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the > venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding > sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost > impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups). > Between this and being continuously jostled/stepped on/poured beer upon > made it sort of difficult to follow the boys once they cut the moorings > loose and started to navigate through more oblique territory. The early > part of the set did pretty much affirm their reputation as rhythmic > virtuosoes & I imagine that the latter part was equally rewarding, > especially to those who possess the Boulezesque ability to comprehend the > most difficult music in one go. Unfortunately, I did not rank among their > number that night. > > By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in > full-on suburban dad mode) checked out an hour into the set. This means > that we're much smarter than him, right? > > -rob > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-07 22:47j snodthe el rey has a bar, but it's a fucking ripoff. $6 for a corona. fuck that. they cost 75
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the el rey has a bar, but it's a fucking ripoff. $6 for a corona. fuck that. they cost 75 cents in TJ. mixed drinks are more expensive and come in a little dixie cup. your best bet is to get trashed in the parking lot, high school days style. no smoking allowed in california, buddy. -j --- "<Insert ubiquitous deep quote from dead guy here>" On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:
quoted 73 lines I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of> I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of > questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen > to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because > they're kinda silly and uncomfortable. > Also, does the El Rey have a bar? Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? > I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? Perhaps a > pleasant campus to explore? Being LA I don't suppose it would be wise to stroll about a > park in the middle of the night. > > PEN EXPERS kicks ass!!!! > > quick review > Meat Beat Manifesto - Actual Sounds and voices: I don't know if you could > call this idm, but its kind of a fun cd. I'm not much for big beat which > this is a little bit , but this is also kind of jazzy. I don't think there > are enough quality tracks that are actual full blown tracks. They often feel > unfinished. Quality, but not something that has enough to offer to > distract me from Confield, and not fun enough to distract me from stuff > like Clarence Park and Agony. It might sound like I'm dissing this > cd, but I really apreciate the jazz on it. Side note: Its on Reznor's > Nothing Label, which is nice, along with Autechre, Squarepusher, and > overplaid. Oh, and anyone know where that acid again clip comes from? > Orb also used it on the Little Fluffy Cloud track. 3/5 > > LENTIC CATACHRESIS kicks ass!!!! > > "what are you, some kind of machine?" > http://mirror.yellow5.com/archive/index52.html > > > On Mon, 7 May 2001, R. Lim wrote: > > > On Sat, 5 May 2001, Kurt Hoffman wrote: > > > > > nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on, > > > more riches than one could keep up with at times. no one does it > > > quite like them, despite routine allegations to the contrary. would > > > have been happier closing my eyes in a more comfortable and intimate > > > space than Bowery Ballroom, but what the hell. > > > > Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the > > venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding > > sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost > > impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups). > > Between this and being continuously jostled/stepped on/poured beer upon > > made it sort of difficult to follow the boys once they cut the moorings > > loose and started to navigate through more oblique territory. The early > > part of the set did pretty much affirm their reputation as rhythmic > > virtuosoes & I imagine that the latter part was equally rewarding, > > especially to those who possess the Boulezesque ability to comprehend the > > most difficult music in one go. Unfortunately, I did not rank among their > > number that night. > > > > By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in > > full-on suburban dad mode) checked out an hour into the set. This means > > that we're much smarter than him, right? > > > > -rob > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-07 22:52zimbobar yes, drinks too expensive trip? take a friend with a car who can take you home after y
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bar yes, drinks too expensive trip? take a friend with a car who can take you home after yes, it is la have fun. chris. On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:
quoted 10 lines I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of> I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of > questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen > to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because > they're kinda silly and uncomfortable. > Also, does the El Rey have a bar? Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? > I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? Perhaps a > pleasant campus to explore? Being LA I don't suppose it would be wise to stroll about a > park in the middle of the night.
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2001-05-07 22:53Howard ShihOn Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: > I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 1
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On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:
quoted 4 lines I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of> I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of > questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen > to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because > they're kinda silly and uncomfortable.
Yeah, they're silly until you get this sudden hellish ringing in your ears that comes and goes at random intervals a few years later. Not to mention having more trouble hearing your friends speak while walking down the street because of background noise. But seriously, it depends on the earplugs and how good the soundsystem is. I wore plugs for Ae's NYC and Princeton shows and things sounded fine to me. Use your own judgement but don't say I didn't warn you ;) Howard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-07 23:36Brian M. CassYea, I guess I will go with earplugs, I don't suppose anyone can recommend a brand or anyt
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Yea, I guess I will go with earplugs, I don't suppose anyone can recommend a brand or anything like that. The last time I tried to wear them they really sucked ass. They were physically silly and uncomfortable. On Mon, 7 May 2001, Howard Shih wrote:
quoted 18 lines On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:> On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: > > > I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of > > questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen > > to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because > > they're kinda silly and uncomfortable. > > Yeah, they're silly until you get this sudden hellish ringing in your ears > that comes and goes at random intervals a few years later. Not to mention > having more trouble hearing your friends speak while walking down the > street because of background noise. > > But seriously, it depends on the earplugs and how good the soundsystem is. > I wore plugs for Ae's NYC and Princeton shows and things sounded fine to > me. Use your own judgement but don't say I didn't warn you ;) > > Howard >
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2001-05-07 23:56EggyToastI'd heartily recommend Hearos. They make multiple variations, but the basic foam ones that
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I'd heartily recommend Hearos. They make multiple variations, but the basic foam ones that look like pink bloated Goldfish crackers are really nice. They're more comfortable than wax or paper, and after having them in for about 15 minutes you don't even notice them, if you "installed them" correctly. I picked up a pack of 4 (two for my ears, two for my girlfriend's) and it was amazing being able to leave the venue, take out the earplugs, and hear everything just like you never went to a very very loud show. If you go to any music store in the area, you should be able to ask about earplugs and get some good recommendations. Most of the music store lackeys will rant on and on about their "custom made" ones which are, of course, the nicest kind, but are about 70 bucks and take a while to get made. They should have a couple styles of Hearos though, and they're pretty cheap (under $5) cheers, /derek At 05:36 PM 5/7/2001 -0600, Brian M. Cass wrote:
quoted 30 lines Yea, I guess I will go with earplugs, I don't suppose anyone can recommend>Yea, I guess I will go with earplugs, I don't suppose anyone can recommend >a brand or anything like that. The last time I tried to wear them they >really sucked ass. They were physically silly and uncomfortable. > >On Mon, 7 May 2001, Howard Shih wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: > > > > > I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of > > > questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen > > > to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because > > > they're kinda silly and uncomfortable. > > > > Yeah, they're silly until you get this sudden hellish ringing in your ears > > that comes and goes at random intervals a few years later. Not to mention > > having more trouble hearing your friends speak while walking down the > > street because of background noise. > > > > But seriously, it depends on the earplugs and how good the soundsystem is. > > I wore plugs for Ae's NYC and Princeton shows and things sounded fine to > > me. Use your own judgement but don't say I didn't warn you ;) > > > > Howard > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-05-08 01:06Jeff/Ninja TuneFor about $250 you can get fitted with a professional set of earplugs. They cut out the fr
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For about $250 you can get fitted with a professional set of earplugs. They cut out the frequencies that will fuck with your hearing, while still allowing you to hear what you're listening to pretty well. They don't have the same muffled effect that the store bought ones do. They basically make a mold of your ear so they fit really well, and if you're a DJ you can get them specially made to not protrude out of the ear (ie. so you can wear headphones over top without the headphones pressing the earplug into your ear). Well worth the investment in the long run. Jeff on 5/7/01 6:36 PM, Brian M. Cass at kingmob@nmt.edu wrote:
quoted 31 lines Yea, I guess I will go with earplugs, I don't suppose anyone can recommend> Yea, I guess I will go with earplugs, I don't suppose anyone can recommend > a brand or anything like that. The last time I tried to wear them they > really sucked ass. They were physically silly and uncomfortable. > > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Howard Shih wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: >> >>> I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of >>> questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen >>> to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because >>> they're kinda silly and uncomfortable. >> >> Yeah, they're silly until you get this sudden hellish ringing in your ears >> that comes and goes at random intervals a few years later. Not to mention >> having more trouble hearing your friends speak while walking down the >> street because of background noise. >> >> But seriously, it depends on the earplugs and how good the soundsystem is. >> I wore plugs for Ae's NYC and Princeton shows and things sounded fine to >> me. Use your own judgement but don't say I didn't warn you ;) >> >> Howard >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-07 23:29Brian MacDonaldOn Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: > I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 1
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On Mon, 7 May 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:
quoted 4 lines I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of> I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of > questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen > to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because > they're kinda silly and uncomfortable.
Go the bathroom, get a slice of toilet paper, separate the plies, crunch each up into a ball, and put into each ear... just not too far in.... (don't want to be responsible for anyone who gets artifacts stuck inside their ears)... Usually, this works me for me as something between wearing earplugs, and wearing nothing. I have no idea how safe it is. And sometimes it doesn't work that well, depending on where you're standing.. and if the sound job is bad anyway.
quoted 1 line Also, does the El Rey have a bar?> Also, does the El Rey have a bar?
Yes. Nothing less than $5.00. Woohoo! Hope you have cash.
quoted 3 lines Can you> Can you >smoke there(cigarettes)(And > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)?
California is the proud state of the nation that bars smoking inside ALL "public" buildings, period. Maybe one day, Californicaters won't be allowed to smoke in their own living space, but the lawmakers have been a little slow getting to that. But there's a little area outside the El Rey where smokers (usually, half the attendees) cram, rub shoulders, etc. to get their fix. But I don't think they let you DRINK outside in the smoking pit.
quoted 4 lines I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on> I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? Perhaps a > pleasant campus to explore? Being LA I don't suppose it would be wise to stroll about a > park in the middle of the night.
Wilshire Blvd. at night is pretty unsubstantial, last I checked. Save it for the beach... or Canter's Jewish deli (open 24 hours a day, except on late night before the Sabbath, where they close for a few hours) while looking at the ceiling. Hey Brian, see you in the *pit*. I'll be the one crowd surfing and slam dancing during the show. If you can't take the heat, move the fuck away. :) (I'll be coming from out of state too, for a convention in L.A.) ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-07 23:57Justin LoveroFYI, wadding up toilet paper and sticking it in your ears does more harm than good. It doe
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FYI, wadding up toilet paper and sticking it in your ears does more harm than good. It does not block enough sound on its own AND it keeps your ear canal from constricting to keep out excess volume. You might as well set off an air horn in your ear. --- Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> wrote:
quoted 14 lines Go the bathroom, get a slice of toilet paper,> > Go the bathroom, get a slice of toilet paper, > separate the plies, crunch > each up into a ball, and put into each ear... just > not too far in.... > (don't want to be responsible for anyone who gets > artifacts stuck inside > their ears)... Usually, this works me for me as > something between wearing > earplugs, and wearing nothing. I have no idea how > safe it is. And > sometimes it doesn't work that well, depending on > where you're standing.. > and if the sound job is bad anyway.
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2001-05-08 23:12R. LimOn Mon, 7 May 2001, Justin Lovero wrote: > FYI, wadding up toilet paper and sticking it in
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quoted 5 lines FYI, wadding up toilet paper and sticking it in your> FYI, wadding up toilet paper and sticking it in your > ears does more harm than good. It does not block > enough sound on its own AND it keeps your ear canal > from constricting to keep out excess volume. You > might as well set off an air horn in your ear.
As somebody already mentioned, this is not true. In fact, an otolaryngologist recommended this very measure to me if no alternatives were available. I mentioned the above rumor to him and he denied it, saying "[the paper] is better than nothing". Of course, a bike helmet will do you little good if a bomb is dropped on your head. -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-08 03:26Lander> Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink
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quoted 4 lines Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And> Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? > I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey?
Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd culture we live in, eh? Zzb ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-08 03:29zimboi see it as a positive thing. yay psychedelics! On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote: > > Can
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i see it as a positive thing. yay psychedelics! On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote:
quoted 25 lines Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And> > Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? > > I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on > > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? > > Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about > dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd > culture we live in, eh? > > > Zzb > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-05-08 05:38Bill WrightYes it is interesting, that something that causes cancer, heart disease, etc etc is legal
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Yes it is interesting, that something that causes cancer, heart disease, etc etc is legal and "ok" and something with no physical side effects (but possible mental ones) is taboo and can land you in jail! At 08:26 PM 5/7/2001 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 8 lines Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And> > Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? > > I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae came on > > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? > >Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about >dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd >culture we live in, eh?
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2001-05-08 18:14LanderWoah there tiger! I wasn't judging ANYONE... And I used to be a rabid, frothing anti-smoke
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Woah there tiger! I wasn't judging ANYONE... And I used to be a rabid, frothing anti-smoker too-- till I tried it. Oh well, another one bites the dust, right? Keep fighting the good fight, bro. Zzb --- Bill Wright <bill@subtr.ac> wrote:
quoted 25 lines Yes it is interesting, that something that causes cancer, heart disease,> Yes it is interesting, that something that causes cancer, heart disease, > > etc etc is legal and "ok" and something with no physical side effects > (but > possible mental ones) is taboo and can land you in jail! > > > At 08:26 PM 5/7/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > Can you smoke there(cigarettes)(And > > > before you say anything, I only smoke when I drink)? > > > I was thinking about dropping three hits a little while after ae > came on > > > stage, is there any place nice to trip around the El Rey? > > > >Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk > about > >dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an > odd > >culture we live in, eh? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-11 08:28The ChisaOn Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote: > Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette h
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quoted 3 lines Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about> Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about > dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd > culture we live in, eh?
That's because acid is safer than cigarettes. LSD metabolizes naturally in the system; that's why you can't overdose on it. m@2zo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-11 08:49Peter Schrocki've never heard that before. More LSD please. (whatever) on 5/11/01 1:28 AM, The Chisa at
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i've never heard that before. More LSD please. (whatever) on 5/11/01 1:28 AM, The Chisa at matt@holland.deathhouse.net wrote:
quoted 9 lines On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote:> > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote: > >> Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about >> dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd >> culture we live in, eh? > > That's because acid is safer than cigarettes. LSD metabolizes naturally > in the system; that's why you can't overdose on it.
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2001-05-11 12:07Brian M. CassNot mention lsd doesn't give you canced or become addictive or waste your life like tv. No
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Not mention lsd doesn't give you canced or become addictive or waste your life like tv. Not that I'm against cigarettes, its just I wanted to stick up for our good friend Cid. On Fri, 11 May 2001, The Chisa wrote:
quoted 19 lines On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote:> > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote: > > > Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk about > > dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd > > culture we live in, eh? > > That's because acid is safer than cigarettes. LSD metabolizes naturally > in the system; that's why you can't overdose on it. > > > m@2zo > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-05-11 13:15EggyToastOf course, you're considered legally insane after 6 hits. cheers, /derek At 06:07 AM 5/11/
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Of course, you're considered legally insane after 6 hits. cheers, /derek At 06:07 AM 5/11/2001 -0600, Brian M. Cass wrote:
quoted 34 lines Not mention lsd doesn't give you canced or become addictive or waste your>Not mention lsd doesn't give you canced or become addictive or waste your >life like tv. >Not that I'm against cigarettes, its just I wanted to stick up for our >good friend Cid. > > >On Fri, 11 May 2001, The Chisa wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 7 May 2001, Lander wrote: > > > > > Interesting that you instantly defend your cigarette habit, but talk > about > > > dropping acid as if you were talking about eating a banana! What an odd > > > culture we live in, eh? > > > > That's because acid is safer than cigarettes. LSD metabolizes naturally > > in the system; that's why you can't overdose on it. > > > > > > m@2zo > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-05-11 16:29pinktry more reading... by the way, the earth is no longer flat. http://www.erowid.org/chemica
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try more reading... by the way, the earth is no longer flat. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml http://leda.lycaeum.org/Chemicals/LSD.10.shtml stop the flow of disinformation, pink
quoted 1 line Of course, you're considered legally insane after 6 hits.> Of course, you're considered legally insane after 6 hits.
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2001-05-11 18:40butt chowderwell, cigarettes don't make people think they can jump off a two story balconey onto pavem
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well, cigarettes don't make people think they can jump off a two story balconey onto pavement and survive ;) --- "Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu> wrote:
quoted 6 lines Not mention lsd doesn't give you canced or become addictive or waste> Not mention lsd doesn't give you canced or become addictive or waste > your > life like tv. > Not that I'm against cigarettes, its just I wanted to stick up for our > good friend Cid. >
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2001-05-08 01:29activity@activaire>By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in full-on suburban dad
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quoted 1 line By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in>By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in
full-on suburban dad mode) checked out an hour into the set. This means that we're much smarter than him, right? HAHA....But of course! -----Original Message----- From: R. Lim [mailto:rlim@escape.com] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:57 PM To: IDM List Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre at Bowery Ballroom On Sat, 5 May 2001, Kurt Hoffman wrote:
quoted 5 lines nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on,> nonetheless, if one closed one's eyes, there was plenty going on, > more riches than one could keep up with at times. no one does it > quite like them, despite routine allegations to the contrary. would > have been happier closing my eyes in a more comfortable and intimate > space than Bowery Ballroom, but what the hell.
Yeah, this pretty much sums up night one. My biggest complaint with the venue was the sound system. The bass only existed as a diffuse thudding sound that obliterated a lot of the high end detail and made it almost impossible to enjoy with earplugs (think dinosaur stomping on Dixie cups). Between this and being continuously jostled/stepped on/poured beer upon made it sort of difficult to follow the boys once they cut the moorings loose and started to navigate through more oblique territory. The early part of the set did pretty much affirm their reputation as rhythmic virtuosoes & I imagine that the latter part was equally rewarding, especially to those who possess the Boulezesque ability to comprehend the most difficult music in one go. Unfortunately, I did not rank among their number that night. By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in full-on suburban dad mode) checked out an hour into the set. This means that we're much smarter than him, right? -rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-11 08:22The ChisaOn Mon, 7 May 2001, R. Lim wrote: > By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrn
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quoted 3 lines By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in> By the way, I couldn't help but notice that David Byrne (dressed in > full-on suburban dad mode) checked out an hour into the set. This means > that we're much smarter than him, right?
Rather the opposite. m@2zo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-08 04:57Kurt Hoffman>I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of >questions. Woul
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quoted 4 lines I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of>I'm going to the ae show at the El Rey on May 19th and I had a couple of >questions. Would you suggest a person who would actually like to listen >to the music and not just hear the bass wear earplugs? I ask because >they're kinda silly and uncomfortable.
unless you have professional-quality custom made plugs (about $100), the sound quality will suffer somewhat, usually losing a bunch of high end (not bass). but, you know, if it's really blasting loud sometimes I hear more detail with plugs in. I didn't need them for most of the Autechre set at Bowery Ballroom, but my ears are half-fried at this point and I wore 'em for awhile anyway just to moderate the beating they were getting anyway...it's a choice between fucking up your ears or losing some of the immediacy of the music...so i never use them when I don't have to, and I'm not afraid to put them in if it's seriously loud. people i know have used all sorts of compromises, like fully plugging one ear and only using paper in the other, or having one plug tight and the other loose, or using the plugs only part of the time...I've plugged my ears with gobs of cocktail napkins of varying degrees of moisture (wetter=less sound). it sounds insane, but it's this perennial issue in the modern age...I mean --it IS insane! it's not like people like to go to movies that are blindingly bright or prefer cologne that causes asphyxiation but we've developed this taste for music that kills our ears. avoid the wax plugs like the plague. k --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-08 23:07clerc2@pe.netI almost always wear earplugs - Rock'n'Roll Hearos to be exact. They're reusable, come in
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I almost always wear earplugs - Rock'n'Roll Hearos to be exact. They're reusable, come in a nifty little holder thing, and don't block out too much of the important stuff. You can get 'em at musician stores like Sam Ash or Guitar Center, or even at some university campus stores.... For work in labs? I haven't figure that out yet. I've worked soundboards for little things at my university, and I've found that in comparison almost every "professional" show I've ever been to has had idiots on their boards. They always have far too much high end hiss that really isn't necessary to enjoy music - unless you've already burnt out your ears so much that you can't hear that frequency without it being really prominent. Of course, I have extremely sensitive ears, since I've always been wearing earplugs to shows. The _only_ exception to this which I can remember is the Plug set at the El Rey, which sounded beautiful with earplugs and then gobstoppingly breathy and beautiful without. But as Betke himself is so into sound levels for mastering, it would make sense. Yetch - I'd never even imagine using wax plugs at a show. Even the regular, skin colored Hearos end up getting all warm and a bit mushy (the Rock'n'Roll ones don't so much, but are a hideous "I'm a candy raver" shade of orange) when you're dancing and sweaty. You all _do_ dance to IDM, don't you? 8^) Awaiting new BoC album, Ryan p.s. I'm pretty adamant about earplugs - I'm starting up a shoegazer band with a friend of mine, and I'm already thinking about selling Hearos at cost at our shows. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-08 22:18atomly[clerc2@pe.net] > I almost always wear earplugs - Rock'n'Roll Hearos to be exact. > They'r
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quoted 6 lines I almost always wear earplugs - Rock'n'Roll Hearos to be exact.> I almost always wear earplugs - Rock'n'Roll Hearos to be exact. > They're reusable, come in a nifty little holder thing, and don't > block out too much of the important stuff. You can get 'em at > musician stores like Sam Ash or Guitar Center, or even at some > university campus stores.... For work in labs? I haven't figure > that out yet.
I picked up some EAR musician earplugs and I've been a big fan of them ever since I got them. I carry them around in their case and I'm now pretty adamant about wearing them. I find that the vast majority of shows actually sound a lot better when you're wearing earplugs... Like you said, they almost always have too many highs at shows. -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-08 22:26Shawn HatfieldI'm in dire need of some proper earplugs. what seem to be the best kind to get? Twerk ----
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I'm in dire need of some proper earplugs. what seem to be the best kind to get? Twerk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org