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2001-05-03 14:15[idm] Re: AE live
2001-05-04 13:38thomas weibrecht [idm] AE Live
2001-05-04 16:46somatics Re: [idm] AE Live
2002-07-23 15:15Jonathan Osborne [idm] Ae Live
├─ 2002-07-23 15:28Aaron Meyers Re: [idm] Ae Live
└─ 2002-07-23 17:21Re: [idm] Ae Live
└─ 2002-07-23 20:47Matthew Ross Davis Re: [idm] Ae Live
2002-07-23 15:57EggyToast Re: [idm] Ae Live
2002-07-23 16:20blip Re: [idm] Ae Live
2005-05-17 20:26chthonic [idm] Ae live
2005-05-17 21:16StaticBeats Re: [idm] Ae live
2015-12-08 04:22Clint Anderson ae live
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2015-12-09 00:01Clint Anderson Ae live
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2001-05-03 14:15tweibrecht@juno.comhow long is the show? tw ________________________________________________________________
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2001-05-04 13:38thomas weibrechtanyone seen the show? how long is it? need info for dat purposes... thx tw np: dub trees -
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anyone seen the show? how long is it? need info for dat purposes... thx tw np: dub trees --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-04 16:46somaticsi saw them in Bristol - about 4 trax in an 1 hr set in total . to be honest the trax were
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i saw them in Bristol - about 4 trax in an 1 hr set in total . to be honest the trax were too long & not half as good as the new lp. saying that the track content was very strong & quite hard in sound but imo too long . somatics@ntlworld.com http://somatics.c8.com icq # 110698430 ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas weibrecht" <tweibrecht@juno.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: [idm] AE Live
quoted 16 lines anyone seen the show? how long is it? need info for dat purposes...> anyone seen the show? how long is it? need info for dat purposes... > > thx > > tw > > np: dub trees > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-07-23 15:15Jonathan Osborne> > I've never been lucky enough to see Ae live. What sort of visual show (if > > any) can
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quoted 5 lines I've never been lucky enough to see Ae live. What sort of visual show (if> > I've never been lucky enough to see Ae live. What sort of visual show (if > > any) can be expected from one of their gigs? > > i've seen them only once and there were no visual show. + they were hiding > behind their computer screens. nothing to see, really.
quoted 5 lines I saw them live in Chicago once. There was no show. They turned the>I saw them live in Chicago once. There was no show. They turned the >lights off. Compared to the previous acts, Autechre seemed very >elegant. Personally, I think their aesthetic is far superior to the >gimmicks some other electonic artists have resorted to in order to seem >techy and futuristic.
I guess I can see it both ways. You can call light shows or effects "gimmicks," but it does actually take a certain amount of effort to set up such an act. It's easy to just turn on your laptop and start playing music. It's more work to create some sort of visual aid to go with the music, however unprofessional it might be. Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low budget? Some may say Autechre's shows are more elegant by not throwing in superfluous junk that confounds the music (which I can understand). Others may call them lazy and/or cheap. My opinion is of the latter. forcasa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-23 15:28Aaron MeyersI haven't been to an Autechre show, but rather than chalk it up to laziness or cheapness,
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I haven't been to an Autechre show, but rather than chalk it up to laziness or cheapness, I'd guess its more of a snobby nose-high-in-the-air kind of thing. Read an interview and learn: Autechre is way cooler than you and don't care what you think about any of their artistic output. They are also mysterious as all fuck and if they had any imagery for their live show, it might lead to assumptions being made about their shadowy personas. As for the new EP, I like the second and third track. I think they're better than anything from Confield. Oh... and I watched the Grantz Graf video again last night on this guys really large widescreen TV and it just about kicked my ass down the stairs. It really needs to be seen on the biggest screen possible. Getting considerably high on whatever is around, doesn't hurt either. GRANTZ GRAF! -Aaron
quoted 19 lines Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low> Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low > budget? > Some may say Autechre's shows are more elegant by not throwing in > superfluous > junk that confounds the music (which I can understand). Others may > call them > lazy and/or cheap. My opinion is of the latter. > > forcasa > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-07-23 17:21bwstrejc@uchicago.edu> > I saw them live in Chicago once. There was no show. They turned the > > lights off. Co
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quoted 5 lines I saw them live in Chicago once. There was no show. They turned the> > I saw them live in Chicago once. There was no show. They turned the > > lights off. Compared to the previous acts, Autechre seemed very > > elegant. Personally, I think their aesthetic is far superior to the > > gimmicks some other electonic artists have resorted to in order to seem > > techy and futuristic.
quoted 10 lines I guess I can see it both ways. You can call light shows or effects> I guess I can see it both ways. You can call light shows or effects > "gimmicks," but it does actually take a certain amount of effort to > set up such an act. It's easy to just turn on your laptop and start > playing music. It's more work to create some sort of visual aid to > go with the music, however unprofessional it might be. > > Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low > budget? Some may say Autechre's shows are more elegant by not throwing > in superfluous junk that confounds the music (which I can understand). > Others may call them lazy and/or cheap. My opinion is of the latter.
People really like to trash Autechre here. Of all the things one could level at Autechre (pretension, remoteness from their audience) I would never think someone would consider them lazy or cheap. I came into listening to Autechre after lp5 and ep7. So the only releases that have come out since then have been the second peel session, Confield, and now Gantz Graf (I think) and in general I tend to think that the releases become more interesting as time progresses, as they remove themselves from the dance and club music which they came from. Given that opinion, that I like late Autechre, anyone have any recommendations? For another datapoint, I find myself listening to alot of Takemura Nobukazu. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-23 20:47Matthew Ross Davishere here suggestions of like-minded material, politely assuming you know nothing of these
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here here suggestions of like-minded material, politely assuming you know nothing of these: twerk, gescom :), phonem, arovane, funckarma, cenic, funkstörung, late squarepusher (i think gantz graf is fantastic, and has some definite squarepusher overtones), richard devine, and i'd also dare to put folks like bola, string theory, slicker and telefon tel aviv in the "close enough" category because of the fair amout of noise elements in what they do. and well, hate to toot my own horn here, but... <shameless self-promotion> this is a live free improvisation: http://craque.net/mp3/miquez/WLUW/20020428/WLUW-4.28-Part8-belltones.mp3 if you like it REALLY abstract, check this one out - a live free improv with two singers i had never performed with before that night: http://craque.net/miquez/nervousctr20020227.html and a full live set i did in june at WNUR chicago will soon be released on a net label - probably by the end of the week. </shameless self-promotion> for the record, confield is one of my favorite autechre records to date, along with tri repetate and the basscadet rmx 12". i almost never spin a set without one of those three on the decks. mat. craque craque.net On 7/23/02 12:21 PM, "bwstrejc@uchicago.edu" <bwstrejc@uchicago.edu> wrote:
quoted 22 lines People really like to trash Autechre here.> > People really like to trash Autechre here. > > Of all the things one could level at Autechre (pretension, remoteness > from their audience) I would never think someone would consider them > lazy or cheap. > > I came into listening to Autechre after lp5 and ep7. So the only > releases that have come out since then have been the second peel > session, Confield, and now Gantz Graf (I think) and in general I tend > to think that the releases become more interesting as time progresses, > as they remove themselves from the dance and club music which they > came from. > > Given that opinion, that I like late Autechre, anyone have any > recommendations? For another datapoint, I find myself listening to > alot of Takemura Nobukazu. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-07-23 15:57EggyToastAt 05:20 PM 7/23/2002 +0100, you wrote: >"Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic o
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At 05:20 PM 7/23/2002 +0100, you wrote:
quoted 13 lines "Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low>"Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low >budget? >Some may say Autechre's shows are more elegant by not throwing in superfluous >junk that confounds the music (which I can understand). Others may call them >lazy and/or cheap. My opinion is of the latter." > >While some imagery can be nice to watch while listening to the likes of >Plaid or Boards of Canada (the latest Plaid setup where they have a camera >over the mixer is particularly cool), it is there to distract attention >away from the fact that the artist(s) aren't doing much. Autechre instead >pummel you not only with sheets of white noise, but also with darkness, >strobes and smoke. Personally I prefer the Autechre approach. And I >certainly don't think laziness or cheapness comes into it.
Right. Cex uses crazy antics, Coldcut uses their lovely VJ software, and Autechre turns off all the lights so you DON'T sit there watching them. Of course, some people do anyway, but you can win all the time :) And who cares if Autechre doesn't want everyone to know about their personal lives? I don't want to know what their favorite type of dog is, where they go to get some cheese, and whether they fell off a playground during school. I don't want the latest Autechre restaurant opening up in NYC with the boys headlining the evening. I want them to make music how they feel like it, and I hope I end up liking the result. derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-23 16:20blip"Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low budget? Some may s
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"Is the lack of effects part of their aesthetic or a consequence of low budget? Some may say Autechre's shows are more elegant by not throwing in superfluous junk that confounds the music (which I can understand). Others may call them lazy and/or cheap. My opinion is of the latter." While some imagery can be nice to watch while listening to the likes of Plaid or Boards of Canada (the latest Plaid setup where they have a camera over the mixer is particularly cool), it is there to distract attention away from the fact that the artist(s) aren't doing much. Autechre instead pummel you not only with sheets of white noise, but also with darkness, strobes and smoke. Personally I prefer the Autechre approach. And I certainly don't think laziness or cheapness comes into it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-05-17 20:26chthonicmy own belated, shorthand impressions of the nyc show: http://echoplex.blogspot.com/2005/0
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my own belated, shorthand impressions of the nyc show: http://echoplex.blogspot.com/2005/05/move-along-now-nothing-to-see.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-05-17 21:16StaticBeatsGreat review! Thanks for that... Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jung
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Great review! Thanks for that... Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com http://www.jungle-life.com --- chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines my own belated, shorthand impressions of the nyc> my own belated, shorthand impressions of the nyc > show: > >
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2015-12-08 04:22Clint Andersonmore ae live sets have been posted on their bleep store apparently so theres that Clint An
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more ae live sets have been posted on their bleep store apparently so theres that Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings
2015-12-08 05:12René WilhelmAE_LIVE_KREMS_020515 AE_LIVE_NAGANO_300515 AE_LIVE_GRAFENHAINICHEN_170715 AE_LIVE_DOUR_180
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AE_LIVE_KREMS_020515 AE_LIVE_NAGANO_300515 AE_LIVE_GRAFENHAINICHEN_170715 AE_LIVE_DOUR_180715 AE_LIVE_KATOWICE_210815 that's wonderful news On 8 December 2015 at 05:22, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 8 lines more ae live sets have been posted on their bleep store apparently> more ae live sets have been posted on their bleep store apparently > so theres that > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > >
2015-12-09 00:01Clint AndersonIt's like a whole other band listening to ae live... Like the other side of a coin you've
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It's like a whole other band listening to ae live... Like the other side of a coin you've only seen half of for years...