IDM Mailing Archive

On 22 Mar 2001, WORM wrote:

quoted 1 line Ok OK..i see your just one of them who sold their soul to Warp,

> Ok OK..i see your just one of them who sold their soul to Warp,

zuh?

quoted 3 lines but my point

> but my point > is there is more than AE, they did some pretty good stuff, but ther is > somuch that I like better.

yeah, i can't think of any friends of mine who like autechre better than what they currently like. then again, they turn on the radio pretty often and think music without guitars isn't music :)

quoted 1 line And they most fun part of the Autechre myth is who they are, if you see

> And they most fun part of the Autechre myth is who they are, if you see

them

quoted 1 line they look just like source direct or Photek. just some real Englisch

> they look just like source direct or Photek. just some real Englisch

dudes

quoted 2 lines who sucsesfully escaped their dull live by creating some good homegrown

> who sucsesfully escaped their dull live by creating some good homegrown > electronics.

point being...?

quoted 1 line But I want to hear some more of you opionons about this subject.

> But I want to hear some more of you opionons about this subject.

sure. autechre does what they do the best. they are probably some of the most popular innovative artists in the "idm scene" (whatever the hell that is) currently, and i base my opinion on what i've heard, musically, for about the past year. there's very little that's new in "idm," and most of what's being put out can fit into 3 or 4 different "idm camps" rather well. there's melodic stuff with some pitty-pat drums, there's noisy percussion, there's dubby glitchy stuff, and there's the obligatory "my percussion track is unique because i throw in some kick drums that are a note late, making it sound disjointed." there are very few artists that are putting anything out that is notably derivative from work they've done earlier, or that someone else has done earlier. i'm not saying that these people aren't being creative, nor that their music isn't good. to me, it's just the way the "idm scene" (whatever the hell that is) is rather stagnant when it comes to really new new things. i know a lot of people that got into "idm" in the first place got into it because of the new new things present. i know that i've been buying less and less music lately, because the cd's i've been buying haven't sounded horribly different from other things in my collection already (maybe i'm just buying the wrong things). to me, autechre are a quality act that releases music that they're experimenting with and really like, instead of making music that sounds like something else out there or that they already released 3 years ago. it took at least two years for any "idm" to start sounding like their tri-repetae album, and stuff has taken on the weird qualities of lp5 and ep7 only recently (the disjointed drums of late sound quite a bit like the "chiastic slide/envane school of drum programming") but it's one of the reasons that autechre's albums always come out with mixed reviews - they're relatively new, and if you apply the same criteria you used on their old albums, you'll come up sour. if you say "this ep7 doesn't sound at all like amber, i don't like it," then that's you, but to me, i like it because it does sound like autechre. you can usually spot real autechre tracks from "clones," and to me, they usually do things with their music that is usually rather surprising, at least on the first listen. the first track off the peel sessions 2 release is a prime example. so anyways, autechre are not the "gods of idm." they just release good, innovative music. if you (general you) don't like it, that's fine, but don't qualify it with "oh i don't like it because everyone else does like it." "ooh let's boycott this thing. what's the boycott about again?" cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now updated daily -------
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