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2001-03-04 21:33Michael UptonWow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code Spoilse' - click on the l

From:: Michael Upton <jetjag@mailandnews.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:33:34 +1300
Subject:: [idm] That new Autechre track...

Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code Spoilse' - click on the link under 'Warp News Headlines' at http://www.warprecords.com) I wasn't very interested in 'ep7' cos I found it way too crunchy and compressed... zero dynamics, lots of noise, over 70 minutes... I think there are people doing more interesting sound design than that. This new track strikes me as similarly adventurous, but the actual choice of sounds is much more in keeping with my tastes. The subtly shifting rhythms culminating and pops and bursts (maybe just my modem connection, but sounding good ;-) reminded me some of Zammuto's 'Willscher'. Michael np. 'Diana & Marvin' - Diana Ross and Marvin Gaye (I've been raiding sales bins for old rekkids... I love rural New Zealand :-) -+- Involve Records http://involverecords.com Jet Jaguar MP3s (latest upload Nov2000) http://mp3.com/jetjag -+- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-03-04 20:55Lee Azzarelloon 3/4/01 9:33 PM, Michael Upton at jetjag@mailandnews.com wrote: > Wow, that track at the

From:: Lee Azzarello <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu>
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Date:: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:55:05 +0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track...
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on 3/4/01 9:33 PM, Michael Upton at jetjag@mailandnews.com wrote:

quoted 7 lines Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code Spoilse' -

> Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code Spoilse' - > click on the link under 'Warp News Headlines' at > http://www.warprecords.com) I wasn't very interested in 'ep7' cos I found > it way too crunchy and compressed... zero dynamics, lots of noise, over 70 > minutes... I think there are people doing more interesting sound design > than that. This new track strikes me as similarly adventurous, but the > actual choice of sounds is much more in keeping with my tastes.

Haven't heard the new track but I have the second Peel Sessions CD. I agree with you completely about EP7. Never really understood the hype. This is just speculation on my part but I think most of the tracks on EP7 were created before they discovered MAX/MSP. I came across this ae MSP patch that plays differently every time you start and stop it with the space bar. It's pretty cool. I'm pretty sure the Peel Sessions tracks were made in a similar manner. -------------------- -l[e^2] *new { ^this.shouldNotImplement(thisMethod) } --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-03-04 22:57Guillaume GrenierOn 04/03/01 16:33, Michael Upton said in living color: > Wow, that track at the Warp site

From:: Guillaume Grenier <gollum@videotron.ca>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:57:03 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track...
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On 04/03/01 16:33, Michael Upton said in living color:

quoted 11 lines Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code Spoilse' -

I had the same exact thought the first time I listened to the track. At first, I didn't like the track that much but it has grown on me, as they say. Quite different from recent releases. Nice hypnotic/"blinding" feel to it. But that could be because I'm relatively tired and it has been looping incessantly for about half an hour... -- Guillaume Grenier - gollum@videotron.ca in space there is no north in space there is no south in space there is no east in space there is no west --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-03-05 05:23Twine soundHave to disagree. I think ep7 was phenominal. We can't expect a band to do the same thing

From:: Twine sound <twine_sound@hotmail.com>
To:: <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 23:23:58 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track...

Have to disagree. I think ep7 was phenominal. We can't expect a band to do the same thing every time. Growth is important. peace, Chad

quoted 9 lines From: Lee Azzarello <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu>

>From: Lee Azzarello <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu> >To: IDM list <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track... >Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:55:05 +0000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.133.83.16] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC6C67A80086D820F3A6D18553100E7D0; Sun Mar 04 20:57:12 2001 >Received: (qmail 21996 invoked by uid 281); 5 Mar 2001 04:56:57 -0000 >Received: (qmail 21986 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2001 04:56:56 -0000

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>Mailing-List: contact idm-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >X-No-Archive: yes >list-help: <mailto:idm-help@hyperreal.org> >list-unsubscribe: <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> >list-post: <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org> >Delivered-To: mailing list idm@hyperreal.org >User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 >Message-ID: <B6C8339E.6159%roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu> >In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010305102528.00b38100@mailandnews.com> > >on 3/4/01 9:33 PM, Michael Upton at jetjag@mailandnews.com wrote: > > > Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code >Spoilse' - > > click on the link under 'Warp News Headlines' at > > http://www.warprecords.com) I wasn't very interested in 'ep7' cos I >found > > it way too crunchy and compressed... zero dynamics, lots of noise, over >70 > > minutes... I think there are people doing more interesting sound design > > than that. This new track strikes me as similarly adventurous, but the > > actual choice of sounds is much more in keeping with my tastes. > >Haven't heard the new track but I have the second Peel Sessions CD. I agree >with you completely about EP7. Never really understood the hype. This is >just speculation on my part but I think most of the tracks on EP7 were >created before they discovered MAX/MSP. I came across this ae MSP patch >that >plays differently every time you start and stop it with the space bar. It's >pretty cool. I'm pretty sure the Peel Sessions tracks were made in a >similar >manner. > >-------------------- >-l[e^2] >*new { ^this.shouldNotImplement(thisMethod) } > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2001-03-06 12:14Michael Upton"Twine sound" <twine_sound@hotmail.com> wrote: >Have to disagree. I think ep7 was phenomin

From:: Michael Upton <jetjag@mailandnews.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: Twine sound <twine_sound@hotmail.com>
Date:: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:14:46 +1300
Subject:: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track...

"Twine sound" <twine_sound@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines Have to disagree. I think ep7 was phenominal. We can't expect a band to do

>Have to disagree. I think ep7 was phenominal. We can't expect a band to do >the same thing every time. Growth is important.

Which lines of the following, which you did quote in its entirety, lead you to believe that either myself or Lee was expecting Autechre to do the same thing, or that either of us consider growth unimportant?

quoted 17 lines on 3/4/01 9:33 PM, Michael Upton at jetjag@mailandnews.com wrote:

>on 3/4/01 9:33 PM, Michael Upton at jetjag@mailandnews.com wrote: > > > Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code Spoilse' - > > click on the link under 'Warp News Headlines' at > > http://www.warprecords.com) I wasn't very interested in 'ep7' cos I found > > it way too crunchy and compressed... zero dynamics, lots of noise, over 70 > > minutes... I think there are people doing more interesting sound design > > than that. This new track strikes me as similarly adventurous, but the > > actual choice of sounds is much more in keeping with my tastes. > >Haven't heard the new track but I have the second Peel Sessions CD. I agree >with you completely about EP7. Never really understood the hype. This is >just speculation on my part but I think most of the tracks on EP7 were >created before they discovered MAX/MSP. I came across this ae MSP patch that >plays differently every time you start and stop it with the space bar. It's >pretty cool. I'm pretty sure the Peel Sessions tracks were made in a similar >manner.

I don't mean to single out Chad, attempting to dismiss someone's opinion by labelling them as anti-change seems to be a very common piece of rhetoric this list. Michael np. 'Magic Thread' - Susumu Yokota -+- Involve Records http://involverecords.com Jet Jaguar MP3s (latest upload Nov2000) http://mp3.com/jetjag -+- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-03-06 16:50Twine soundIf I have misunderstood your post, then I appologise. No offense was intended. Basically,

From:: Twine sound <twine_sound@hotmail.com>
To:: <jetjag@mailandnews.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:50:08 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track...

If I have misunderstood your post, then I appologise. No offense was intended. Basically, I am tired of seeing people put down ep7 all the time. I really like autechre and their work. I think ep7 was a fine release. I hate to see innovators get bashed all of the time. My appologies, Chad

quoted 10 lines From: Michael Upton <jetjag@mailandnews.com>

>From: Michael Upton <jetjag@mailandnews.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >CC: "Twine sound" <twine_sound@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [idm] That new Autechre track... >Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:14:46 +1300 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [199.29.68.123] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBC6E1FAC0057400431DEC71D447B0A0E0; Tue Mar 06 04:14:36 2001 >Received: from [203.96.149.163] (jetjag@MailAndNews.com) by >MailAndNews.com; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:11:43 -0500

From jetjag@MailAndNews.com Tue Mar 06 04:16:26 2001

quoted 57 lines X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Tue, 6 Mar 01 07:11:43 -0500

>X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Tue, 6 Mar 01 07:11:43 -0500 >Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20010307010756.00b43510@mailandnews.com> >X-Sender: jetjag@mailandnews.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 >In-Reply-To: <983816466.7195.ezmlm@hyperreal.org> > >"Twine sound" <twine_sound@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>Have to disagree. I think ep7 was phenominal. We can't expect a band to >>do >>the same thing every time. Growth is important. > >Which lines of the following, which you did quote in its entirety, lead you >to believe that either myself or Lee was expecting Autechre to do the same >thing, or that either of us consider growth unimportant? > >>on 3/4/01 9:33 PM, Michael Upton at jetjag@mailandnews.com wrote: >> >> > Wow, that track at the Warp site really blows me away. ('VI Code >>Spoilse' - >> > click on the link under 'Warp News Headlines' at >> > http://www.warprecords.com) I wasn't very interested in 'ep7' cos I >>found >> > it way too crunchy and compressed... zero dynamics, lots of noise, over >>70 >> > minutes... I think there are people doing more interesting sound design >> > than that. This new track strikes me as similarly adventurous, but the >> > actual choice of sounds is much more in keeping with my tastes. >> >>Haven't heard the new track but I have the second Peel Sessions CD. I >>agree >>with you completely about EP7. Never really understood the hype. This is >>just speculation on my part but I think most of the tracks on EP7 were >>created before they discovered MAX/MSP. I came across this ae MSP patch >>that >>plays differently every time you start and stop it with the space bar. >>It's >>pretty cool. I'm pretty sure the Peel Sessions tracks were made in a >>similar >>manner. > >I don't mean to single out Chad, attempting to dismiss someone's opinion by >labelling them as anti-change seems to be a very common piece of rhetoric >this list. > >Michael > >np. 'Magic Thread' - Susumu Yokota > >-+- > Involve Records > http://involverecords.com > > Jet Jaguar MP3s (latest upload Nov2000) > http://mp3.com/jetjag >-+- >