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Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 7 lines > http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > >

I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question from people about CDs! But the answer is simply–if there is enough demand to facilitate production of any kind of physical release, why not? Dave

quoted 11 lines On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand <http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand> > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >

A quick search on Amazon just answered what would have been part two of my question. Had no idea that there were still so many cassette players on the market. I guess tape hiss adds to the warmth. On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Dave at EAR/Rational Music < dave@ear-rational.com> wrote:

quoted 22 lines I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question

> I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question > from people about CDs! > > But the answer is simply–if there is enough demand to facilitate > production of any kind of physical release, why not? > > Dave > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >

i spose but cassettes i dislike because they wear just like records but then also have a smaller dynamic range/equivalent sampling rate i think its something like 16khz or less? also the whole fast forwarding/rewinding thing heh and i sold my last tape deck years ago i have thought about getting one just cuz they are fairly cheap and cassettes are coming back but i feel like as soon as i drop the money cassettes will fall out of fashion lol Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Dave at EAR/Rational Music < dave@ear-rational.com> wrote:

quoted 22 lines I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question

> I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question > from people about CDs! > > But the answer is simply–if there is enough demand to facilitate > production of any kind of physical release, why not? > > Dave > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >

that's the businessman answer. I think the real answer is that cassettes tap into a deep nostalgia for people of a certain age and it's a bit of an ironic snub to hi-fi audiophile/vinyl culture, celebrating the limitations of the format.  this is not a apologist's defense of the trend (I have not purchased a real tape since maybe the Wu-Tang Forever double-pack in '97), just a casual observation. From: Dave at EAR/Rational Music <dave@ear-rational.com> To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 9:36 AM Subject: Re: new yaporigami on detund I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question from people about CDs! But the answer is simply–if there is enough demand to facilitate production of any kind of physical release, why not? Dave On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote: Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings

Also there's been a good amount of interfacing recently between the noise underground (which has always favored tapes) and the world of proper dance/techno/idm/etc. I've noticed alot of material being released both digitally and on cassette. I imagine there's a good amount of listeners who are into collecting some sort of physical media but do most of their listening digitally. CDs for most have no value as an aesthetic object sitting on the shelf, and vinyl is too much of a pain in the ass to press. Therefore tapes are ideal for small pressings and legitimize what would otherwise be a digital-only release, which carries (sadly) stigma, at least to some. Tapes are fun to dig through and usually get looked over. Found a Terrance McKenna and Spacetime Continuum collab in my local record store with full on like 8 panel artwork. On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com

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quoted 41 lines that's the businessman answer. I think the real answer is that cassettes

> that's the businessman answer. I think the real answer is that cassettes > tap into a deep nostalgia for people of a certain age and it's a bit of an > ironic snub to hi-fi audiophile/vinyl culture, celebrating the limitations > of the format. > > this is not a apologist's defense of the trend (I have not purchased a > real tape since maybe the Wu-Tang Forever double-pack in '97), just a > casual observation. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Dave at EAR/Rational Music <dave@ear-rational.com> > *To:* IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> > *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2015 9:36 AM > *Subject:* Re: new yaporigami on detund > > I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question > from people about CDs! > > But the answer is simply–if there is enough demand to facilitate > production of any kind of physical release, why not? > > Dave > > > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > > http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > >

liking this label a lot... currently enjoying the hell out of http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/bezobrazie-extended-edition thanks for the rec.  From: Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 8:56 AM Subject: new yaporigami on detund http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings

For all your tape-hissy nostalgia needs: https://archive.org/details/attentionkmartshoppers more seriously: https://archive.org/details/noise-arch No cassette player required. Brian On Fri, 18 Dec 2015, Christopher Mauldin wrote:

quoted 39 lines that's the businessman answer. I think the real answer is that cassettes tap

> that's the businessman answer. I think the real answer is that cassettes tap > into a deep nostalgia for people of a certain age and it's a bit of an ironic > snub to hi-fi > audiophile/vinyl culture, celebrating the limitations of the format. >   > this is not a apologist's defense of the trend (I have not purchased a real > tape since maybe the Wu-Tang Forever double-pack in '97), just a casual > observation. > > ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > From: Dave at EAR/Rational Music <dave@ear-rational.com> > To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: new yaporigami on detund > > I’ve got a label that puts out CDs and frankly I get the same question from > people about CDs! > But the answer is simply–if there is enough demand to facilitate production > of any kind of physical release, why not? > > Dave > > > > On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:33 AM, Alan Lucas <alucas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Serious question: why are people doing cassette releases in 2015? > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > http://detund.bandcamp.com/album/eye-hand > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > > >

I understand since the big lawsuit by Eminem and management about digital download royalties that many contracts have been updated and no longer contain references to tape or vinyl so artists can sell there own without giving money (or much money) to the label. Steve

i feel like kero @ detund must be on this list.... Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Steve Gualdoni <sgualdoni@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines I understand since the big lawsuit by Eminem and management about digital

> > > I understand since the big lawsuit by Eminem and management about digital > download royalties that many contracts have been updated and no longer > contain references to tape or vinyl so artists can sell there own without > giving money (or much money) to the label. > > > > Steve > > >