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Would someone be so kind as to provide me with a dictionary definition of illbient? thanks (c) At 05:54 PM 12/24/2000 -0600, underground and faded wrote:

quoted 13 lines if i enjoy music like track 1 (dark, illbient/ambient style) off of

>if i enjoy music like track 1 (dark, illbient/ambient style) off of >cristoph de babalon's 'if you're into it, i'm out if it,' does anyone have >any other recommendations in a similar vein/sound/feel? >or just classic/good illbient releases in general? > >regards.r. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 5 lines if i enjoy music like track 1 (dark, illbient/ambient

>if i enjoy music like track 1 (dark, illbient/ambient >style) off of cristoph de babalon's 'if you're into >it, i'm out if it,' does anyone have any other >recommendations in a similar vein/sound/feel? >or just classic/good illbient releases in general?

i'm not sure "opium" (the song you're talking about) has much to do with "illbient" (an unfortunate genre name, to say the least)... at all. For one, there's no beat; there's also no middle eastern/africa hoo-ha, no bass, and no groove. I would just call "opium" ambient and have done with it... if you like it, though, I can highly recommend some other things... like alec empire's "les etoilles filles mortes" (i think) or Mika Vainio's "onko" (only the last 1/4 of it is at all similar to what i think you want) or any semi-recent Lull (mick harris of scorn) album, like "Cold Summer," (especially this one) "Way Through Staring," or "Continue." You might also want to try some of the more ambient records on ant-zen/hymen - cold and hypnotic ambience. beequeen or selected Black Lung might work... maybe Ambre too. ===== the humble abbott arthur purvis set his hand hereto __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines if i enjoy music like track 1 (dark, illbient/ambient

>if i enjoy music like track 1 (dark, illbient/ambient >style) off of cristoph de babalon's 'if you're into >it, i'm out if it,' does anyone have any other >recommendations in a similar vein/sound/feel? >or just classic/good illbient releases in general?

you could also get ready for the upcoming Spaceheads/Max Eastley album as it is an amazing ambient trip... It will be released in March I think... philippe SPACEHADS AND MAX EASTLEY. THE TIME OF THE ANCIENT ASTRONAUT. The Spaceheads and Max Eastley have sculpted a complete work from a clash of ancient and future technologies. Music as, crafted soundscapes, sculptured washes of sound, deep textures, broad melodic invention, spontaneous meetings. The Spaceheads have been hurtling down a unique path of their own for many years now. This duo mix trumpet and electronics with drums and percussion. Plaintive trumpet calls are looped across pulsing beats that propel us into sheets of metal crashing and vibrating through tiny pick ups cranked to the full and then spun into electronic webs. Max Eastley, sound sculptor, artist, musician, is playing his own invention The Arc - a mono chord of wood and wire. He scrapes, bends and flexes the sound, twisting it into an orbit of amplified experiences. Electricity and raw noise captured and controlled, then flying out of control, bumping up against, colliding with fellow travellers. Ancient Astronauts. Spaceheads met Max Eastley at a multi media extravaganza in Manchester. A man set fire to tables, fireworks went off, the scene was set........ Max cast his spell over the audience with vibrating blocks of sound from his instrument of alchemy The Arc. The spaceheads followed him and where they overlapped a new, intoxicating sound emerged. The audience were hynotised. It was a special moment that the Spaceheads and Max decided to try and re-create in a recording studio. They Failed. They didn't recreate that moment. They didn't even try. From the first sound a different and special magic was evoked, captured in one afternoon on this recording. Haunting trumpet melodies over soft drones and textures sets the mood. This slowly mutates to a world of high opera and tipsy beats that then cascades with a metallic pounding. It is Scary. The music takes on cinematic proportions as the terrain unfolds. Interstellar landscapes are revealed. This is improvisation as a battle between the done and the possible. Whatever next? The Spaceheads are Andy Diagram - Trumpet and voice through harmoniser and echo loops Richard Harrison - Drums and percussion and sheets of metal through electronics. The spaceheads have been touring regularly across the globe for the last five years. They have recorded five albums. Max Eastley plays The Arc. A nine foot long mono chord. One string stretched over wood and played with a bow or glass rods. The pitch is changed by flexing the wood. The string can also be shortened with clips. It is then fed into electronic effects. Max Eastley began in the late sixties to investigate the relationship of chance to music and visual art. Using kinetic sound devices or the environmental forces of wind, streams and sea. These automata possessed implications that were sculptural, architectural, theatrical and musical. He continues to work in all these branches of creative and philosophical exploration. Max has recently exhibited work at, the Big Chill festival UK, Sonic Boom at the South Bank London,The ICC Centre Tokyo, and The Belfast festival amongst many others. Max has made many recordings with The Arc, among them,"day for night" with Peter Cusack (paradigm), 'buried dreams" with David Toop, and "isolationism" a compilation on Virgin records.

in the vein of cristoph de babz, i would also suggest sum (DJ?) scud material...i really don't think this is the true "illbient" style that was coined a while back..for people who are taking it foward imo i would suggest WEtm (who are fukkin amazing live) or anything that Byzar have done (i believe they've broken up as of late as a dj working @ liquidSky/Final Home told me) solo(byzar=ylyptk+quantyk+acustyk) or otherwise...if yer ever in the NYC area during the early part of the month you should check out Unity Gain, a monthly livetime event w/ video tag team battles and crazy futurestep/illbient electronic mayhem...almost all the groups i have mentioned have performed in this event...one artist comes performs a set and leaves with a giant mess of stuff looping, timestrecthing, and playing and another artist comes on a tries to make something out of what he/she was left...sounds crazy but its definitely amazing to say the least... peace centripdLL "a happy matt, a snappy matt" "and matt's the hero, we paint a zero on his head" www.unitygain.org www.multipolyomni.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org