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2000-07-18 06:23Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex)
2000-07-18 07:01Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex)
└─ 2000-07-18 07:35are you there god? it's me margaret Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex)
2000-07-18 13:59Rjyan Kidwell Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex)
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└─ 2000-07-18 19:03[idm] lexaunculpt info, interview and tracks
└─ 2000-07-19 15:41Josh Davison Re: [idm] lexaunculpt info, interview, debate and strife
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└─ 2000-07-19 18:30Josh Davison Re: [idm] lexaunculpt info
2000-07-19 05:44Christopher Miller [idm] Re: lexaunculpt info, interview and tracks
2000-07-19 06:27DJ Justes Re: [idm] Re: lexaunculpt info, interview and tracks
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2000-07-18 06:23MilkAlive@aol.comIn a message dated 7/17/00 10:04:16 PM, fresh@home.com writes: << Wow, sweet backstabbing
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In a message dated 7/17/00 10:04:16 PM, fresh@home.com writes: << Wow, sweet backstabbing man. Aren't you the guy who was only yesterday trying to get us to listen to your tracks on mp3.com by boasting about a collaboration with lex? I see you made 5 bux, kudos. Don't spend it all in one place ok? And aren't you the same guy who sweating him just a few months ago to figure out his techniques? Yesterday he was a genius and today he's exciting as a saltine cracker and appeals only to fanboys. So what does this make you Brad? I guess those of us who saw your shows together can draw our own conclusions. >> Just the facts, ma'am. My mp3 site is strictly for fun. Alex and i did a couple of tracks together. i put up stuff at mp3.com that I don't take too seriously, which includes what i did w/ him. I make PLENTY of money doing other things with music that has nothing to do with alex or kid or mp3.com. It would be pathetic if i actually thought i could make money with that stuff.. As a musician i try to learn as much as i can from everybody that i collaborate with, even if it's how NOT to do things. I learnt quite a bit from alex, and the same can probably be said for him. Our shows together were total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced and mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show..alex is not meant to do collaborations and that's why it was dogshit, he doesn't need anybody adding anything to what he does.
quoted 1 line Hah, maybe if Kid spent as much time on the actual music as he does calling>>>Hah, maybe if Kid spent as much time on the actual music as he does calling
quoted 1 line up magazines/press/and whoever else he can annoy to further pimp his>>>up magazines/press/and whoever else he can annoy to further pimp his
quoted 1 line releases some of us might actually like it. Then again, maybe not.You 2>>>releases some of us might actually like it. Then again, maybe not.You 2
quoted 1 line really deserve eachother. I can see how you could convince yourselves after>>>really deserve eachother. I can see how you could convince yourselves after
quoted 1 line hours of conversation in the mutual appreciation society you've created>>>hours of conversation in the mutual appreciation society you've created
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quoted 1 line the reason the majority of IDM fans don't like kids music is because we are>>>the reason the majority of IDM fans don't like kids music is because we are
quoted 1 line all 'snobs.' Haheheh. Couldn't possibly be that the majority of press that>>>all 'snobs.' Haheheh. Couldn't possibly be that the majority of press that
quoted 1 line writes the endless nonsensical reviews and press kid generates doesn't know>>>writes the endless nonsensical reviews and press kid generates doesn't know
quoted 1 line their asshole from their elbow unlike the listmembers who listen to>>>their asshole from their elbow unlike the listmembers who listen to
quoted 1 line electronic music 24/7, could it??>>>electronic music 24/7, could it??
sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for him ( leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of it beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and your pal isn't. Brad --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 07:01Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan> Our shows together were > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of
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quoted 3 lines Our shows together were> Our shows together were > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live > improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced
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quoted 2 lines mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add> mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add > something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show..
Hmmm or was it that he heard your 'idea' of live improvisation and did the best he could to humor you while maintaining some level of dignity :)
quoted 2 lines I learnt quite a bit> I learnt quite a bit > from alex, and the same can probably be said for him.
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quoted 1 line sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for> sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for
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quoted 1 line leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of> leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of
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quoted 2 lines beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the> beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the > multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and
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quoted 1 line pal isn't.> pal isn't.
and this don't exactly gel do they? learned quite a bit from the talentless did you? Why not be honest Brad and admit your true motivations for posting any of this, which are entirely personal. If Alex (and I) learned anything from you and your buddy 606 it's how not to treat your friends, especially after how generous Alex was in sharing his knowledge and talent with both of you. If Kid has arranged some press agents good for him, now maybe he can get off the phone for once and arrange to make some decent music that doesn't use all the same shit alex showed him 2 years ago. Propaganda only gets you so far, some of us have actually listened to the records. I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging is leveled at a friend. gnz. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 07:35are you there god? it's me margareti am in a posting mood tonight (hell if i know why) so i am going to jump in here (you may
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i am in a posting mood tonight (hell if i know why) so i am going to jump in here (you may as well delete now:!) the socal scene is way too fucking full of drama - at all angles! for some reason we live in an area with some of THE most talented people possible: lexaunculpt, kid606 (am i allowed to put those 2 names next to eachother these days?:), brad laner, most of the plug research cast and crew (low res, phthalocyanine, mannequin lung, etc), brian lustmord, l'usine, bassland and so many many many other people (like EVERY band from the area that has played up at KUCI) -- yet you put *some* of these people together in a small room and they fight like mad! its like the idm version of spartacus or something. (note, i am not claiming that all these peeps are like this, just that some of them clash with one-another personality wise). it just gets rather frustrating to see artists that i admire quite a bit and have been following since what might be day 1 for a lot of them (i have not left my bedroom for years, okay??) fight and bicker and shit like that. the worst part is that there is, all things considered, not much in terms of a scene here -- yet rather than dropping their bs, people fight like mad. i hope other regions of the world are not QUITE this bad! on live collaborations/jams: live jams between skilled artists are wonderful! i think some of my fave moments in viewing shows come from watching electronic artists just drop their guard and jam away. this is one of the reasons i enjoy seeing acts like bassland so much. sometimes they reach points of absolute amazement -- and other times, when "journeying" (for lack of a better word), they end up hitting some low points. its the nature of live improv. personally i am willing to put up with the shakey moments to hear the moments of pure chemistry. when brad (electric co./milkalive) and alex/lexaunculpt played live togther, i very much enjoyed it for what it was. it most certainly was not perfect, but it was simply a fun live moment (from an audience perspective). i feel very strongly, however, that they each make better music on their own, as they have drastically differing approaches to music (as brad, alex, gonzi, brock, etc have all stated in less the kind ways :). when alex/lexaunculpt and michael/kid606 played together -- well, i think it worked a bit better. there really did seem to be some sort of chemistry there (imo, again, from my little audience chair). i saw them do a live improv at beyond baraoke (sp?) in LA and it was quite good in that noisey/chaotic sort of way. in fact, as far as i know, that was the first night that the hip-hop/NWA covers surfaced, that later gave way to the new "attitude" 3" cd (or so i am guessing, which is the reason i was bummed not to see the lexaunculpt song on there but understand why 2 people at odds would not want to put something out together -- again, speculation on my part from the muppet balcony seats). on top of that, kidlex (featuring..guess who?) produced one of the best 23 seconds of music ever! anyway, i guess my point is -- as a fan of the music it would be nice if the personal issues could be set aside so the ideas and music can continue to come out as slick as always! now that i feel like a complete scenester, thanks for the time. chris. On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Gonzi 'Fresh' Merchan wrote:
quoted 45 lines Our shows together were> > Our shows together were > > total bullshit because the guy doesn't understand the idea of live > > improvisation. It could only be crap if he's playing his fully produced > and > > mixed songs ( whilst pretending to "do" things) and i'm trying to add > > something on top.. an impossible way of doing a good show.. > > Hmmm or was it that he heard your 'idea' of live improvisation and did the > best he could to humor you while maintaining some level of dignity :) > > > I learnt quite a bit > > from alex, and the same can probably be said for him. > > this... > > > sour grapes, gonzi. actually kid has press agents to pimp his music for > him ( > > leaving him plenty of time for music) and they in turn have an easy job of > it > > beacuse he genuinely is an interesting subject for journalists, being the > > multi-faceted, irreverant, industrious and talented kid that he is and > your > > pal isn't. > > and this don't exactly gel do they? learned quite a bit from the talentless > did you? Why not be honest Brad and admit your true motivations for posting > any of this, which are entirely personal. If Alex (and I) learned anything > from you and your buddy 606 it's how not to treat your friends, especially > after how generous Alex was in sharing his knowledge and talent with both of > you. If Kid has arranged some press agents good for him, now maybe he can > get off the phone for once and arrange to make some decent music that > doesn't use all the same shit alex showed him 2 years ago. Propaganda only > gets you so far, some of us have actually listened to the records. > > I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so > I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging is > leveled at a friend. > > gnz. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-07-18 13:59Rjyan Kidwell> I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so > I'll stop now
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quoted 2 lines I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so> I realize this is getting a bit personal for general list consumption so > I'll stop now, but it's hard to keep quiet when this is sort mudslinging
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quoted 1 line leveled at a friend.> leveled at a friend.
i'm surprised no one has taken this opportunity to bring up some relevent issues like... where the hell IS lexaunculpt? i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times. when do we get to hear this "new stuff?". i've seen him listed on a pair of compilations recently (one on Pitchcadet, one on Merck) but both of those tracks are from pre-summer of 99... and i havent heard anything about any plans for new releases from him from any camp. is he even making tracks anymore? and likewise, what's up with Orange? is it defunct or something? are the Datathief and D'arcangelo records i think i remember seeing posts about last year still coming out? i'm sure a lot of people on idm-l are curious about these things. -rk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 14:22Dot Bot>i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this >isn't as nut-b
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quoted 4 lines i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this>i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this >isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on >this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new >stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times.
I thought the Orange 12" that came out last year was one of the five best EPs released in the 99. Wrote a rave review on it. Still love it. Bought 3 copies of it as well because I always play it when I'm jocking and I wouldn't want to be in a situation where it's been played to pieces and I can't get a new copy. Can't really recommend it enough. my two cents /franz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-18 19:03webcast@method.comwe hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. if you are interested
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we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. if you are interested in some recent live tracks and an interview (as well as other webcasts from other artists) point your browser at: http://www.method.com and hit the "webcast" link. regards. ad
quoted 10 lines i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this> >i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this >isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on >this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new >stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times. when do we get to >hear this "new stuff?". i've seen him listed on a pair of compilations >recently (one on Pitchcadet, one on Merck) but both of those tracks are from >pre-summer of 99... and i havent heard anything about any plans for new >releases from him from any camp. is he even making tracks anymore? >
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2000-07-19 15:41Josh DavisonI've been listening to this and I gotta say it's quite a nice sounding set from Lex. I gue
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I've been listening to this and I gotta say it's quite a nice sounding set from Lex. I guess I'd have to weigh in on the Lex side of the now infamous Kid606 v.s Lex debate. Speaking of which debate, why are people getting so riled up over this? It's obvious to me that the only similiarity between these two guys is the fact that 1) they are both Americans from Southern California (yech) and 2) they use powermacs to create their music. I think they are attempting to occupy completely different (albeit somewhat overlapping) realms of the aesthetic spectrum. Anyway since my tastes tend toward the more melodic and (ahem) listenable, I'm leaning toward Lexaunculpt... I think Kid606 definitely has his moments though. anyway cheers to lexaunculpt for quite a nice purty set :) -josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 webcast@method.com wrote:
quoted 53 lines we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method.> we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. > if you are interested in some recent live tracks and an interview (as > well as other webcasts from other artists) point your browser at: > > http://www.method.com and hit the "webcast" link. > > regards. ad > > > > > > > >i mean, if my memory serves me correctly, both of his 12"s got some "this > >isn't as nut-bustingly great as you made it out to be, socal" reviews on > >this list, which were in turn answered by "Well, this isn't even his new > >stuff! lex's new stuff blows everything away!" both times. when do we get to > >hear this "new stuff?". i've seen him listed on a pair of compilations > >recently (one on Pitchcadet, one on Merck) but both of those tracks are from > >pre-summer of 99... and i havent heard anything about any plans for new > >releases from him from any camp. is he even making tracks anymore? > > > -- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Aaron Day > 415.901.6300 Main > 415.901.6358 Direct > 415.901.6310 Fax > aaron@method.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Method > 512 2nd Street, 4th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94107 > > www.method.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > . > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-19 17:17kevin@independence.netlex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to. since im fairly new to IDM, i was
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lex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to. since im fairly new to IDM, i was wondering if any one had any recommendations of music that parallel that taste. (you know, the people he `copied') Thanks much kevin oh i also think gq on the eq is great (although harder to dance to). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 18:30Josh Davisoncheck out Autechre and anything on Schematic records if you haven't already. personally i
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check out Autechre and anything on Schematic records if you haven't already. personally i think 32nd notes and 64th notes (and their corresponding triplets) should be officially banned along with the Amen break. I like that schematic sound, but damn guys, i can hold down the "Timing Correct" button on my MPC too, but I lay off it cuz y'all are doing enough... josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 kevin@independence.net wrote:
quoted 15 lines lex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to.> > lex is currently by far my favorite music to listen to. > since im fairly new to IDM, i was wondering if any one > had any recommendations of music that parallel that taste. > (you know, the people he `copied') > Thanks much > kevin > oh i also think gq on the eq is great (although harder to dance to). > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-07-19 05:44Christopher MillerOn Wed, Jul 19, 2000, ad wrote: > we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here
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On Wed, Jul 19, 2000, ad wrote:
quoted 5 lines we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method.> we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. > if you are interested in some recent live tracks and an interview (as > well as other webcasts from other artists) point your browser at: > > http://www.method.com and hit the "webcast" link.
Where exactly on your splash page is the "webcast" link? This is the second time I've followed your lead but can't figure out where/what I'm supposed to click to get there...?! .`-). christopher miller o o.' evil@fdt.net == ' --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-07-19 06:27DJ Justesit's a macromedia flash website (make sure you have the plugin). pink in color and the lin
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it's a macromedia flash website (make sure you have the plugin). pink in color and the links are a pinkish/burgundy. the links are on the bottom right of the page. when you "mouse-over" them they turn white. the link opens a new window. the window is green. the text is bluish/green. click the link "webcast archive". next page - click 02 (lexaunculpt). next page page click "download". play lo-fi, download hi-fi (160kbps .mp3) or download low-fi. hope this helps.... Justes / http://www.staticbeats.com / Music for the Mind | Music for the Soul \ Ambient | Techno | Jungle | Electronica \ Streaming M-F 10am - 8pm \ Real Audio Archives 1995 - 2000 Christopher Miller wrote:
quoted 20 lines On Wed, Jul 19, 2000, ad wrote:> On Wed, Jul 19, 2000, ad wrote: > > > we hosted alex for a weekend for our webcast series here at Method. > > if you are interested in some recent live tracks and an interview (as > > well as other webcasts from other artists) point your browser at: > > > > http://www.method.com and hit the "webcast" link. > > Where exactly on your splash page is the "webcast" link? This is the > second time I've followed your lead but can't figure out where/what I'm > supposed to click to get there...?! > > .`-). > christopher miller o o.' > evil@fdt.net == > ' > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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